Miguel Cotto or Oscar De La Hoya, who's more skilled?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Because I say so? Yeah. :lol: Guys don't undergo massive dramatic changes this far into their career. Fighters' styles change sloooowly, over the course of many training camps and bouts, through trial and error, if at all. Cotto has developed very nicely since the days of being a can't miss light welterweight prospect. He's come a long way. But it didn't happen overnight. And he's probably close to peaking if he hasn't yet. Unless he's going to hop in the same Superman phonebooth as Foreman and become twice the fighter he is now in his 40s. :yep
     
  2. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He ain't no better body puncher than Cotto. Like I said before you guys glorify the past all you want. And De La Hoya has loss most of his big fights. Cotto pretty much has won all of his, except won contreversal one against Margarito and the whole world knows Marg cheated in that fight. Clottey even elaborated on that when he said Cotto is eons better than Marg and physically stronger. And Clottey is built like a brick wall.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Oh let's not get into opposition please.

    Oscar wiped his ass with an opportunity to beat Trinidad.

    That Trinidad retires any version of Cotto to date (and like I said, the odds of Cotto changing dramatically too much from this point forward are slim).

    Eking out a close win (OK, admittedly, I thought Ike won, but it was damn tight, photo finish stuff) over Quartey > eking out a close and probably equally questionable win over Clottey.
     
  4. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Cotto gets even a tad bit better than he is, he'll be nightmare for anybody. He's already one of the best. And he won a fight with one eye, were most fighters would of quit or got knocked out. He had 20 stiches on his above and below his eye, do you know how hRD IT IS TO FIGHT UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. You can sleep on him all you want but in the future your be eating your words.
     
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    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No doubt about that. I was leaving that to the 'power' department, vs just skills. I totally agree. Few have that kind of power punch to the level ODLH did.

    I slag on ODLH sometimes, but I have huge respect for him and loved watching him fight. I'm not a big Cotto fan, as anyone could tell you. But I have tremendous respect for his skill set and talents. :good
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    I've been pumping Cotto since the Torres fight; chill, little man. :yep

    He's fantastic and could go down as a HOF/ATG. However, head to head I like prime Oscar over any possible manifestation of Cotto I can envision, let alone the ones I've seen thus far.
     
  7. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You talking about the same Oscar that ran from Tito the rest of the fight? Cause he was scared to get kocked out? And Trinidad's only chance to beat Cotto is by landing a big bomb on him and he wouldn't cause of Cotto's defense. Trinidad's slow ass punches would barley ever get the target.

    And Cotto dealt with adversity in the Clottey fight than Oscar ever dealt with in his whole career and Cotto had a granite chin opponent in front of him.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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    Execution of a punch can have as much to do with power as the natural strength/force behind it. Oscar threw a hook the way it should be taught in kindergarten, along with Ike's jab, Kessler's cross, Shavers' uppercut, Pep's feint, and Hatton's self-destruct ringpost faceplant.
     
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    Well Cottos Biggest strengths are his jab and Left hook. I think Oscar Is superior with both although I think the left hook is close (I like Cottos to the body DLH's upstairs). I think DLH is a great combination puncher aswel, right up there with the best of our generation. Its a No Contest really.
     
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    Cotto's speed is definitely underrated and his timing of punches is just as great. De la Hoya has more skills than Cotto but, Cotto has much more heart than De La HOya and this cannot be contested!!! Who was a more dominant fighter...Cotto ofcourse with his combined skills and heart, and ability to take more punishment. Remember the day Bernard Hopkins hit De La Hoya on the body and knocked him out!!"He Hit me on the BUTTON!"":lol:
     
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    A great combination puncher?!:huh

    I feel the same here with the TS. DLH had a great jab and a signature left hook that gave him almost all his great victories. But that's really it.

    His defense was ****. He countered superbly with his left hook. But his combinations were just flashy throws with nothing on them ending with that signature left.

    If Cotto threw a combo, that **** had some serious gas behind it. Cotto's jab is being HEAVILY underrated here. Especially considering he's put 2 fighters on their ass with a jab. One of them being "granite-chinned".

    Cotto has far more tools than DLH. The bodywork alone should show this, but even wants to look at DLH's composition and his near victories and razor thin victories and say that Cotto is absolute ****.

    DLH was faster.
    DLH had better conditioning.
    DLH had a better chin.
    DLH has a better resume.

    and he also had more fans and money.

    That's about all I can give to DLH.
     
  12. zarman

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    spot on
     
  13. Ricky369

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    Thats the main thing here. I want Cotto to improve that. I think 8 weeks for Clottey was ridiculous. Cotto shoul not take more than 2 weeks before start training for Pacquiao in November. I am not talking about sparring. He needs to do a lot of road work. Need to improve stamina, flexibility and speed. He is good, but he needs to be on top of his game for Pacquiao. Besides, win or lose, Margarito could come next.
     
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    oscar by far... joke.
     
  15. SuzieQ49

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    some of you people are ridiculous. Oscar and oscars opposition are leagues above cotto. Cottos huge struggle with a 36 year old past his prime mosley should tell you that mosely, oscar, tito, quartey, forrest in there prims were all much better than cotto.