Tokyo Douglas vs. Comeback Foreman (in 1990)

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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  2. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I would say Douglas' VAST advantage in speed (hand and feet), skill and just overal ability more than makes up for Foreman's edge in durability. Douglas 10-2 UD. It's possible that Douglas matches up best with a short pressure fighter, as he wasn't very proven against a wide variety of styles, but i'm not that impressed by comebacking Foreman.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Am I to assume that you feel Buster's advantages are omnipresent whether it's specifically "that night's version" or not (we'll say still a 1990 version of both even if not pegging down a date)? George did still have his punch and of course James had his vulnerabilities. :think
     
  4. janitor

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    Buster on "that night" likley takes it.

    I am as skeptical of the "that night" theory as anybody.
     
  5. PbP Bacon

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    As much as I like Foreman, I must say the advantage goes to Tokio Buster, as far as he doesn't pull a Moorer and stays away from Big George's right hand :scaredas:
     
  6. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Foreman normally has an edge in terms of heart, but not on that night. He did show some stamina problems against Tucker, although the right hands he took had something to do with his deteriorating state as well. I will say that Foreman has a punchers/pressurer's chance that is larger on an other night, but the Tokyo version, i don't think he can pull it off. Let's not forget that Foreman was shut out by Morrison and had plenty of trouble against the like of Schulz and Stewart.
     
  7. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Douglas could move enough on his worst night to outbox comebacking sloth Foreman.
     
  8. Spirit Fearon

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    Douglas on that night beats George.
     
  9. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Douglas should win.

    But I think George's effort against Holyfield is underated.
    The Foreman from that fight might have a chance against
    Douglas based on pure power and will to win.
     
  10. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lets not mince words. Douglas on that night makes mince meat out of Foreman
     
  11. red cobra

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    Douglas of '90 would have given Foreman the most solid thrashing of his career, including Zaire, and might possibly have busted him up for a tko in 7 or 8.
     
  12. red cobra

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    The grill-selling smart money acumen of George Foreman and his management would have NEVER risked fighting that version of Buster Douglas. The comeback would have certainly been derailed by Douglas.
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    The problem I have with making the Douglas who fought Tyson as a "force" against other great fighters, is that on February 12th, 1990 he was in the ring with a man who essentially wasn't fighting to win. Weather that fighter's name was Mike Tyson or Mickey Mouse, is basically irrelevant. There is a colossal difference between a man who merely shows up to make an appearance as opposed to one who is there to take your head off. When Foreman faced Michael Moorer in 1994, he had an opponent in front of him who was much younger, faster, could hit hard, and was hitting him with everything he had for 10 rounds. Also, unilke Douglas, he was undefeated and had no history of losing to mediocrities.

    While Douglas possesed the type of profile and skillset that Foreman typically faltered against, he was still no Ali, Young or Holyfield....

    That said, I give Buster a chance, but it is by no means a forgone conclusion and certainly not based on a single night's performance against what " used to be " Mike Tyson..
     
  14. mr. magoo

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    If a shot at the world title was on the table..........He most certainly would have... In fact, as soon as Tyson lost to Douglas, Foreman set his sites on Buster because he was now the man... When Douglas lost to Holyfield, Evander became his new target...
     
  15. AnthonyJ74

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    No contest! Douglas wins a lopsided decision. Douglas was too fast, too mobile, and he was a good-sized heavyweight with good power. This wouldn't be a rusty, fragile Gerry Cooney in the ring with George. Douglas was limited and not always the most dedicated of fighters, but Douglas was a good, solidly-skilled heavyweight. George would never get going in this fight!