Wlad reafirms ***** move status with continued ducking of Haye.

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Before, I wasn't sure what to make of the situation, but now it's clear as day.

    Wlad, who said he would punish Haye after Haye humiliated his family and continually talks ****, decided to fight a guy with an amateur style and literally no chance at winning in Chagaev.

    Understandably, Haye pulled out with an injury, and Klitschko rescheduled because of the uncertainty regarding Haye's return to the ring.

    And I suppose that Chagaev was the best alternative, but that doesn't mean he had a chance of winning, nor does it means that he was a particularly good or dangerous heavyweight, especially considering he lacked, power, the ability to throw more than a 1-2, and the speed both of hand and foot to be any sort of danger to Klitschko.

    In fact, this was brilliant matchmaking by Team Klitschko, fighting a relatively undersized southpaw, who posed no threat, but would give Klitschko the opportunity to call himself the lineal champ.

    Chagaev is a ****in bum. I called it before the fight in several threads, and I gave a pinpoint analysis of EXACTLY what would happen.

    And people were trying to argue with me that Haye was less dangerous than Chagaev.

    These people are what you call homosexuals.

    But that's another topic for another day that ya'll can cover in San Fransisco with MJ.

    Anyway, my point is, Haye is the only contendor that has a shot at beating Wlad aside from his brother, yet Wlad won't fight him even after all the **** talking Haye put him through, and even after the public purchased the tickets in basically record time.

    This mother ****er is duckin Haye.

    He knows that Haye has the style, the speed, and the power, to knock Klitschko out, yet he still is ascared to fight him?

    Who the **** is he gonna fight next? Povetkin?

    Are you ****in kiddin me? This mother ****er passes as the next great heavy?

    Has anyone see him fight?

    He's come foward in straight lines, doesn't move his head, is easy to land on, has no power, and stands right in front of you. These are the types of BUMS that Klitshcko feasts upon.

    Man, what a ***** move.

    And for the record, Haye would have knocked Chagaev out. He would have capitalized and the fight would have ended in the mid rounds by KO.

    He has a more versatile offense than Wlad, and he's more committed, and Chag is very predictable and very limited.

    It would be a wipe out.

    Ya'll mother ****ers that think differently crack me up.
     
  2. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    And just so ya'll don't talk ****, this is what I said about Chagaev before the fight....

    I don't understand how anybody can think Chagaev has a chance.

    I'll break it down for ya'll.

    1) Chagaev has an amateur style based around his 1-2. Generally, this is not a bad thing, especially if a fighter has a more diversified offense, but considering Chagaev lacks the speed to put together fluid combinations against upper level opposition, (for the heavyweights basically just Wlad, Haye and Vitali, although Chag was having trouble doing this against Valuev who is neither upper level nor fast), this will be determintal against Klitschko who has height, reach, and athleticism advantages over Chagaev and also uses the 1-2 as his main offensive weapons.

    2) Chagaev is a southpaw who likes to use an in and out, high guard attack, but does not look particularly fast with his foot movement and looks to be just average with his hand speed, but either way slower than Klitschko in both categories, despite being the smaller man. Since Chagaev's main offensive weapon is his left straight, and with his stance it's the farthest hand from Klitschko, he will be in a world of hurt when he finds out how hard it is to connect on Klitschko with his straight left, just as Ibriganov came to find out.

    3) Chagaev lacks power and speed. Against Valuev who is incredibly slow, Chagaev didn't appear much faster, and against many opponents his power seemed questionable at best, but certainly not in the league of Peter, Haye, Vitali or Wlad. Maybe slightly higher than a guy like Povetkin, but less than that of Ibriganov. His footwork is also not fast enough to allow him to shoot in with his 1-2 and avoid getting hit.

    4) Chagaev doesn’t have the defense to cope with Klitschko. While Chagaev’s defense is better than 95% of the heavyweight division, that isn’t saying much. He does move his head, and he does hold his hands high, and can sometimes be an elusive target, but he has faced limited opposition who did not have the talent or the fortitude to offer any serious threat to Chagaev, yet against recent opposition, Chagaev has not appeared to be much of a world beater either. Still though, he won’t be able to avoid the more athletic and faster Klitschko and Chagaev doesn’t have the defensive ability or style as the Jeff Mayweather trained Ibriganov.

    5) He has been injured often, hasn’t looked good in his last few fights, and may very well be on the decline. Chagaev may very well come into the fight in the best shape of his life, although it won’t be enough, but it’s doubtful considering his layoffs and the fact that he isn’t getting any younger.

    So basically if you put all these factors together, Klitschko will bide his time as Chagaev finds out right away how hard it is to hit Klitschko especially with his limited offense, as Klitschko jabs away and occasionally lands right hands. Chagaev will then have to respond desperately as he does not have the defense of Ibriganov, but his attack will be futile as he doesn’t have offensive versatility to frequently land on Klitschko nor the power to capitalize when he does. This fight actually has the makings of spectacular KO as the severely overmatched Chagaev will have nowhere to run and will eventually, inevitably be brutalized by Klitschko.

    This is a set up fight to make Klitschko look good against an opponent who has no chance. Hopefully Haye will fight an opponent, perhaps one with a chance, and brutalize him as well to set up a super fight in the NEAR future. But fans rooting for Chagaev, don’t get your hopes up as your man has no chance.
     
  3. thesandman51

    thesandman51 teh secks Full Member

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    isnt vitali gonna fight haye?

    why should he get in the way of his bro?
     
  4. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I thought that was all based around speculation, but I wouldn't doubt it.

    Vitali is a fighter. He'll sign the contract.
     
  5. M.Alexander

    M.Alexander Tough Mofo Full Member

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    Dude you should go to a psychodoc. Really!


    IGNORE LIST
     
  6. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    lol. didn't wlad sign to fight the Savior. Wasn't the Savior the one who pulled out of the fight when he hurt himself showdow boxing and then lied about the timetable for return in order to save face?
     
  7. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    ya your right he should have fought one of the other heavyweights that are better than Chagaev....................oh wait.
     
  8. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Get a job and get laid and stop spending your whole life talking about the Klitschko's. He has a mandatory against Povetkin and a mandatory against Dimitrenko/Chambers.
     
  9. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Fact is, Haye is the only fighter out there with a chance. Povetkin is a ****in bum.
     
  10. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Those mother ****ers are bums.
     
  11. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    haye pulled out cause he had a tummy ache
     
  12. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Injuires happen so I wont blame Wald, but this fight has to happen
     
  13. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    You're an idiot. Wladimir was supposed to be in the ring with Haye Saturday night, it wasn't his fault Haye got injured.
     
  14. thesandman51

    thesandman51 teh secks Full Member

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    thats just ******ed.
     
  15. curly

    curly Fastest hands in the West Full Member

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    Wlad did have a point when he said he should get in line