Prime Holyfield vs Wlad Klit

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  1. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    Great fight...would have loved to seen it. I think either can get stopped late.
     
    KobeIsGod, Jun 23, 2009
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  2. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Not funny. :-(
     
    RUSKULL, Jun 23, 2009
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  3. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    you know it is , and you know im kidding and you the meaning as well. you love wlad and always have.he is unstoppable in your eyes which is great and your opinion as holyfield's technical dismantling of wlad is mine.
     
    kolcade4, Jun 23, 2009
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  4. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    No,in 2002.

    Holyfield was way past it.

    He wa spast it when he foguht Lewis in 99.
     
    catasyou, Jun 23, 2009
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  5. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    im sorry but i just cant see the logic behind those who think wlad can beat a prime holyfield . there is just no friggin way. holyfield is too sound of a boxing technician for wlad. he would show things to wlad that wlad didnt think were possible like getting easily past that so so thrown with a shred of confidence jab of his . once he realize that it will be ineffective he might not even go out for the second rd. this is an easy fight to figure !duuhh!
     
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  6. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    yes but Watch Wlad's movement against Chagaev. That kind of foot movement will give Evander fits. Wlad won't sit in the pocket and exchange like Bowe or Foreman. Wlad has become a master at fighting smaller fighters cause he can control distance so well. Moreover, Evander is a natural counter-puncher so he's gonna have trouble getting off.

    It would be a tough fight for both.
     
    KobeIsGod, Jun 23, 2009
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  7. kolcade4

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    I see what your saying but the way i see it is Evander renders Wlady's jab useless. Evander is willing to take a couple stiff jabs to his sweet spot in order to deliver 20 of his own. Evander is willing to take some in order give back more than what was offered therefore this fight ends faster than most would speculate.
     
    kolcade4, Jun 23, 2009
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  8. kolcade4

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    and by the way wlad really didnt move that much against chagaev. all chagaev did was stand right in front of wlad and get dinged with ole 1, 2 im gonna get you combo from wlad. chagaev and his trainers should have already known that he shouldve moved to the right . i was saying this during the 2nd rd of the fight way before the announcers said anything as you all were also seeing the same thing. chagaev let me down , he had an oppurtunity to do better but totally did a belly flop. and by the the way bob and weave is not the same thing as actually stepping to the right .
     
    kolcade4, Jun 23, 2009
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  9. wvucheerjr

    wvucheerjr Active Member Full Member

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    Lewis beat a shot version of Holyfield. 1991-1996, maybe even 1997 Holyfield UD's Lewis 9 times out of 10.
     
    wvucheerjr, Jun 23, 2009
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  10. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    welcome to the "noob ,with a bit of boxing knowledge club" it's so good to see a new guy who knows what he's sayin'
     
    kolcade4, Jun 23, 2009
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  11. calzaghe1979

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    Wlad would jab his head off than drop him with rights hands.
     
    calzaghe1979, Jun 23, 2009
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  12. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well the greatest height of Holyfields career was bouncing back against the odds several times and of course beating Tyson. Wlad on the other hand has been very consistent and dominant and lacks superstars as opponents. Holyfield never had an 11 bout winning streak at HW, he rarely dominated good quality opponents who were in shape the way Wlad dominates. Holyfield was not given much respect before fighting Bowe and while he showed incredible heart, he lost two out of three there against a fighter who was a punching bag for Golota. Wlad's career is more quiet, without the drama of Holyfield's career, but he improved over the years and is now a truly great fighter H2H.

    And BTW, the Holyfield who was beaten up by Moorer or the one who barely got by little Bobby Chyz or the one who lost to Ruiz could have been beaten by Brewster or perhaps Sanders. So let's compare them both at their best for real and I just don't see that Holyfield can force his gameplan on Wlad, reach, jab, speed, power is all in Wlad's favor together with a strict mental discipline in the ring.
     
    ramalinga, Jun 23, 2009
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  13. calzaghe1979

    calzaghe1979 Active Member Full Member

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    That **** is funny. Holyfield never had a prime. Lewis beat the **** outta of him plain and simple.
     
    calzaghe1979, Jun 23, 2009
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  14. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Are you actually saying Holyfield was in his prime when Lewis fougt him?
     
    catasyou, Jun 23, 2009
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  15. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bull****. Holyfield didn't have one continious prime,in the rematch against Lewis, he looked a lot better than on many occasions in 1991 - 1996.

    Lewis knocked out Bowe with ****ing headgear in the Olympics. Lewis beats Bowe and Moorer at any stage and both conquered Holyfield. Lewis would knock out the ancient version of Holmes and Foreman who took Holyfield 12 rounds.
     
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