How can you claim a guy like PAC is scared homie? I mean for real. There is no doubt PAC is the smaller man facing the bigger men by making these fights. A catch weight is meant to make things even. If you really wanted to do some real critical thinking, think about this......COTTO, SHANE, DLH, HATTON, FLOYD are all "Bitches". Why? B/c they are trying to pic on the smaller fighter soley b/c his name brings in money and he's seen as a smaller man who is easy pickings. Now....I'm not saying that I believe that garbage just like I don't buy yours with stating PAC is some how "scared". And its the other way round brah....they are calling out PAC...the SMALLER man. Floyd doesn't need to pull a catch weight fighting smaller men in his division.....actually fighting smaller men who are even in his division! He could be fighting legit WW's...men his own size yet he hasn't even done that. And I LIKE Floyd and I'm less critical of him and his actions than most. That last comment is on some homo ****. Leave that **** alone unless you ready to do something with it.
A ***** move is making a guy move up two divisions to fight you instead of fighting the guys in your division.
Roach actually said hes worried for his fighter, and looking out for his best intrests with these catch weights. No **** he was scared, if he was confident at fighting cotto at 147 he would. Their is no disputing that statment. Because it makes complete logical sense. catch weight means "oh no he might be to big for me at that weight, so im going to make him come down to even the playing feild and increase my chances' that dosent come off as fear too you? and mayweather fought baldomir,coralese, both fighters bigger than him. why dont you answer the question about hank armstrong first?
At 135 Hank faught a few WW's at catch weights. Not sure which ones but I saw it on a bio that I watched a few years back. Plus No one called Nard, DLH, Tito, Jones, Leonard or anyone else as pulling "***** moves" when they faught at catch weights. For some reason PAC is catching a lot of heat for this catch weight business.
This **** is stupid once again. They are at least a full weight class apart. Pac is heavily muscled at 140, Look at his chest. Pac is simply amazing for putting muscle on and still being as fluid as he is. Many great fighters have fought at catch weights. You do the ****ing research if you're crazy enough to make those claims you better get your **** straight. recently hoya-hop,hop-pav,pav-taylor,hop-winky. There is so many more and even on much bigger stages. those are just a few recent catchweights .
Are these guys for real or just crazy. He's fighting bigger men and trying to level the field somehow. He's not even telling them to come to his weight he's asking to compromise to make these huge exciting fights. they probably don't even remember that Donaire came down to school Darchinyan, or Castillo had his last couple of fights at welter before he came back down to fight Floyd.
he also fought welterweights when he weight in at 135 and they weight in at 147. Back then it wasnt called catch weights, guys just came in 10 pounds more, 10 pounds less. NO ONE GAVE A ****. They just wanted to fight. And actually, most people do ***** at people for catch weights. You just ignore it unless its about you idol :yep
That is the JOB of PAC's handlers to look out for the best interest of their guy. It's to be expected that Roach is looking for the best financial and fight options when going to bat for PAC. You're not 100% correct saying that if they were confident fighting at 147 that they would. It all goes back to making things fair before the fight takes place between fighters who are NOT in the same weight classes. Just b/c PAC faught DLH at 147, which PAC DID NOT weight in at the time, doesn't mean he's a legit WW homie. Catch weight is what it is, which is a term agreed upon by fighters from different weight classes who are looking to make a fight on even terms. Nothing more or less. And NO...it doesn't come off as fear...Maybe it it were you or I looking to make a catch weight if we wanted to throw hands. B/c I've NEVER faught anyone close to the level of a DLH, Hatton, Shane, Zab, JMM, MAB or EM in my life. For these guys to be labled as scared is just not realistic when considering this is the way they make a living and have been doing so for a better part of a decade or longer. That to me is logic. So are you comparing a BALDO to any of the other names in this thread? Corales YES...bigger man in terms of lenght and height but not over all natrual build. Floyd, Shane, Cotto are built natrually bigger than PAC without a doubt! Their FRAMES are larger and can support more weight and that is a fact.
If you really care about your legacy, why dont u want to fight a guy like cotto at their best weight? Why do you feel the need to handicap them? I also complained when dlh did it, when winky did it, when pav did it,(with taylor its diff, he just couldnt make weight anymore)
I kno, why dont the heavy weights have catch weights now. Chagaev should have asked klit to come down to 225 :nut or lets make vitali go down to 220 to fight david haye :nut
I don't idolize anyone and there were stipulations even back in the golden era of boxing for fighters who were larger not being able to come in at a higher weight than what was agreed upon during negotioation. Catch weights have been round for a LONG time brah. And no......most people don't ***** about catch weights unless they are fans of guys who are larger, fighting smaller men who have a good chance at upseting or beating them. Nard wasn't made to be the bad guy having PAV move up in weight. Nor was Jones for Tito. Nor was DLH for Floyd or anyone else. PAC is just on fire right now and haters are on the job.
Fraud's biggest win was against a weight drained Corrales for **** sake. if only you Floydtoys were as demanding with him as you are with Pac.
How are you questioning PAC caring about his legacy when his resume is filled with the WHO's WHO of boxing. If he didn't care Cotto, Shane, Floyd, Ricky, Oscar, JMM, EM, MAB...None of them would be on his ledger homeboy. Why don't you filp the script and stop trying to make excuses for a man who needs none. If you think about what's real Cotto is the one with the advantage not PAC. He's looking to face a small guy. On the surface it's like a big bully trying to beat up and take advantage of a smaller guy. Of course that's not the case at all but you are so one sided you'll be hard pressed to ever see the middle. If you complained then so be it.....the fact remains in this circumstance MORE are complaining with you when they never had before when these things took place.
You cant compare bernard to cotto. Because bernard didnt ever really belong at 175. In fact he never weight in at 175. He weighed at 173 for calzaghe. So it was much easir for him to move to 170 withouthaving a negative effect on his body. Still dosent make it right though, pav and winky should have fought him at whatever weight BHop was at his best
There is a reason why it's the HW divison brah. If you can't understand that then you need to find anther hobby to take up. Its the same reason why you'll never see a HW on the P4P list unless he's NOT a natural HW.