Abraham Vs Pavlik?

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  1. calzaghe1979

    calzaghe1979 Active Member Full Member

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    Abraham is going to be on Showtime for the second time. Are Pavlik and his team going to keep saying that Abraham needs more exposure or are they going to man up? I still dont think Pavlik and his team want the fight after Grampa Bhop outclassed Pavlik so badly.
     
  2. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    **** this fight, It had it's chance.
    Team Pavlik is running out of steam as is the MW division.
    (Too much sitting around going down, SMW might follow in the same fate)
     
  3. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    dude you are a pav hater, everytime someone brings his name up you act like someone punched your dog...and b/c of that you are also trashing bhop and you don't even realize it. "Grandpa Bhop" is in everyone's top 5 p4p...don't trivialize how good he is just cuz you don't like pav
     
  4. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And dont forget to mention that "grampa B-hop" beat Calzaghe as well,see how that makes him feel:lol:
     
  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Pavlik and his team have some up with pathetic bull**** like "Build yourself first", who else does Pavlik have in the division to ask for Abraham to build his self?

    These people are claiming Abraham is an unknown then a week later they're rumored to be considering Sergio Mora. Do they have better options to ask Abraham to be more popular?

    Think it's obvious they want no part of him after they considered a fight with Sturm.
     
  6. j0hn0

    j0hn0 double up on the jab Full Member

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    :deal
    not sure which fight u were watching. joe still has the 0.
     
  7. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    B-Hop killed the Pav express... The wheels are still not on.
     
  8. j0hn0

    j0hn0 double up on the jab Full Member

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    not sure they want "no part of him", but i definitely think the hype is already there.

    im a huge pavlik fan, but i think this fight nds to be made, and the pavlik people know it.
     
  9. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    pavlik i think will get beat , but am thinking that cause hopkins fight is still in his mind and mentally may not be ready for a tough fight.dont kill me just an opinion
     
  10. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its not pav's fault. It's arums. Pav lost ALOT of steam after bhop embarassed him. And with his only claim to fame being taylor(whos career fizzled), we now see him for what he is. A very good fighter. NOt what arum was hyping him to be, arum was hyping him to be a legend or somthing. Now that the sham is over, arum needs to build hype up again, and abraham has too good of a chance to win. He wants to keep his mw champ, he dosent want pav to fight a guy that might take it from him, then arum will make like no money off pav
     
  11. j0hn0

    j0hn0 double up on the jab Full Member

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    if pavlik beats abraham (more specifically, ko's him), all the hype is back with one fight, no need to build back up. all the work in 1/10 the time
     
  12. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    im getting ****in tired of arum. pavlik should have had a big fight by now against abraham/sturm but he hasn't been able to do ****. it's ridiculous, he's in his prime and he's sitting on his ass...
     
  13. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    There's NO CHANCE Pavlik would KO Abraham. Not with his defense and his chin. I do think Pavlik would outwork Abraham to a wide UD, but Abraham has one of the best beards in the sport and has a defensive style where he doesn't get hit much to boot.
     
  14. j0hn0

    j0hn0 double up on the jab Full Member

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    fair enuf. but just saying, no need to delay this fight to build anything up.

    e-1 wants to see it. everyone knows that abraham is the 92394239523 lb gorilla in the room.

    make the fight.
     
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Number 29 ranked Mahir Oral is a typical Abraham choice. Back when Jermain Taylor offered AA a fight, Sauerland said no, and they fought Sebastian Demers. When Zuniga was the rightful mandatory, Sauerland screwed Zuniga, and gave the fight to Elvin Ayala. When Winky wanted a fight, and there was a good chance of HBO putting it on, they chose LuJaun Simon. Right now Roman Karmazin is calling for Abraham's head, but Sauerland chose the less known, less skilled, and less dangerous Mahir Oral.

    Sauerland's current strategy is crystal clear. They run off at the mouth about Pavlik in order to keep Abraham's name in the public eye. You sure as hell couldn't keep him in the news by talking about Demers, Ayala, Simon, and Oral. Sauerland and Abraham have done a clever job of making Arum and Pavlik look like villians, but no one has been able to produce a single shred of concrete evidence that they ever made a legitimate offer to fight. A few press releases, or even a hundred press releases, do not constitute a legitimate fight proposal.