Weight Issues. We talk about fighters who Fight Smaller fighters like Floyd but. Truth be told, We only pay so much attention to weights now because Pacman had oscar drain himself so bad to fight pacman. So whats the Diffrence from pacman draining a legend to a point were he cant land a punch and floyd blowing up a legend to fight? the diffrence is that the legend thats blown up has a better chance vs a dehydrated starved zombie. If oscar fought at a better wieght like at floyd he would have been just as active and would have went 12 rounds. just like he went with floyd. Now everybody is talking about weights like They are so knowledgable. But the main reason why weights is a big deal now because oscar got his ass handed to him. and we use that against floyd who has never starved anybody to fight. but this aint about pac and floyd they just prime examples i use for double standards and dumbass that think they know what they talking about
LOL, Pac didn't make Oscar drain himself, Oscar ****ed up the weight via his own accord. If he had of rehydrated up afterwards properly he wouldn't of been so zombified but Roach knew that it would be tough for Oscar to come down to 147 but Oscar thought he could do it and in theory his own cherrypicking backfired on him big style. The thread does make sense though, people like me are just pissed because I want to see fair fights where both guys are 100% and I dont even care if there is an 8lbs difference as long as both guys are 100% and then it will be upto the man with most skill to then go out and win the fight. If Cotto fights Pac, as long as Cotto is not drained then this fight is acceptable at a weight that both guys can make but I really do hate catchweights and would rather see this at 147 so it is for a legitimate title.
Oscar might have went 12 rounds if he was not dehydrated but he would have lost all 12. The man has been shot since he fought Felix Sturm. Weight has nothing to do with that
Right whatever the situation may be for oscar if he needed an IV ball game you goin out on your back. How can we judge a fighter off what he done to a speed bag. Hail him for beating fighters that were not at there best. He beat the hitman aka the worse boxer in 20years fair in square but that man was damaged goods and only beat stzu. If pacman wants to fight welter weights then he need to go to 147. At 147 they pac to much muscle to deal with the bigger stronger fighters. And the best Welters in the world to day were Lightweights and one was a super feather so how can you ask these guys to burn that muscle to fight? you get the edge. A fighter is better in natural form coming up in weight vs going down. Pacman can fight at 147 and he needs to see floyd and shane at 147 instead of becoming boxer of the decade off damaged goods! and Floyd and Shane need to fight afterwards or be purged from boxing. I want to see the best fights too but what I dont want is somebody giving thereself the advantage at weight by bringing somebody down. This is the Reason David Reid turned out to be a bust and not a great fighter. Trying to do what mosley did and stay at lighter weights to make weight and ended up burning muscle and took on the Roy Jones effect. All im saying is im tired of hearing the Cherry picker crap and the weight crap. Pac wants welters he should go up to welter. He was a monster at 147 when he faught oscar and stepped in the ring at 148 and sent ricky to hell. If pacman can be %100 active at 147 he needs to step up and fight them Floyd would come in the ring around 152 like Hatton did. he dosent gain much weight but its obvious his body adjusted to 147. Only people that talk all this crap about Mayweather shane and cotto not dropping and they could make 140 easily have not boxed and couldnt loose a pound if they tried and dont understand how hard it is to maintaine a range of weight they have to stay in which is already enough stress then being asked to drop 5-7 more pounds. They will look ripped but thats only because theres no fat they burning muscle which isnt fair because that messes a 30ish fighter up for the rest of his career. If your a fan of Boxing You the Fans need to act like you want to see the best fights and want to see the Fighter that can perform and he has performed at 147. If your a fan of Boxers then I understand some of you dumb ****ers you just want your guy to have the advantage and win. Im a fan of Boxing and I want to see the best Fights. or atleast both fighters near they best. Not weak business men
You missed the point. At least we would have seen a better fight! and yes oscar lost to felix in my eyes but his next fight he demolished who was it ? gatti? But then we have the fighter of the decade for beating a shot fighter?????? we all know he dosent wear the crown without delahoya Good Fight was oscar and be Hop Oscar moved up to Bhop. he was finished by the harder puncher but oscar was working the good old guy
Bull**** being weight drained is a rare occurrence. The overwhelming majority of the time a catch weight is still to the larger fighter’s advantage. Coto knows it. Everyone keeps harping on one ****ing fight ignoring reality. And Oscer coudn't land a punch because he is a converted southpaw with no right hand fighting a southpaw with great movement. It was a styalistic mismatch. For christs sake do any of you Pac haters actually box! There's a damn good reason Oscar stayed away from southpaws most of his career.
would it been rare if shane came down to 142 and cotto 140? its rare because nobody is going for that bull****. You see more fighters move up before they move down
i see your point about the weight...but lets keep in mind that its these ww's that want a shot at pac...and they want it badly b/c they want the big payday. they are the ones putting pac in an advantageous position to demand they come down when these ww's could make a **** ton of money if they just fought eachother
your living in a fantasy world if you dont think shane and cotto would not have the same problems these guys would walk around 200+ out of training camp like tito did
