Lewis-Bowe, who wins?

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  1. elgoadie

    elgoadie Active Member Full Member

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    The man in my avatar wins in massive style.
     
  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I always thought that Bowe would be more than competitive with Lewis in '92, but in reality, Bowe was to suscepitble to getting hit by smaller guys let alone a guy the size of Lennox. It'd go to the middle rounds, but Lewis would find a home for his right hand, and perhaps even his uppercut,and Bowe can't take to many of those without going down and staying down.

    Lewis by TKO 8
     
  3. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Lennox by stoppage.
     
  4. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    People know my feelings on this one, but I still believe Lewis was in no condition to fight the well schooled Bowe that beat Holyfield. At that time he was getting hit a lot easier, his footwork was poor, and he really was a one armed fighter just throwing the big right hand which often left him off balance and easy to counter. He had a tough fight against Bruno, and was knocked out by Mcall. Bowe could hit like Bruno and take a fight to an opponent like Mcall. Lewis would have his punchers chance, but Bowe at that time had the advantage in the intangible department. This wasnt amatuer boxing, and Bowe had been well schooled in fighting on the inside, and developed a really good jab and aresenal of punches.
    The fight in the olympics was pretty much even and really if you watch it, seemed to be stopped a bit prematurely, which Bowe always contended.
    All that being said, Lewis improved quite a bit by 96 so if that version of Lewis faced Bowe, I would say Lewis would have a better shot, but I always though Bowe brought a more complete fight to the table so I would have always picked the best Bowe against any version of Lewis.
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Good post.

    But Bowe could not hit like Bruno. :verysad
     
  6. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Peak for peak I'd pick Lewis in a fascinating, exciting fight. Their legacies are miles apart but a Bowe in the mood for a scrap was a dangerous *******. He'd be hell for many fighters with better legacies.
    I just see Lewis being able to land on Bowe more easily than vice-versa, and those big right hands will tell in the end, although Bowe will rock Lewis on a few occasions too. Lewis was also usually excellent against fellow big men as well, so all in all I have to favour Lennox, although Bowe certainly has the capacity to win this fight.

    I agree with those who favour Bowe pre 1994, based mainly on the fact that Bowe was pretty much the finished article and had superior experience. Lewis was very good before '94, but he wasn't quite the same fighter he developed into later.
    Again though, Lewis certainly has a real shot prior '94 as well.

    It's such a pity we're left pondering the possibilites for this fight; had they fought I think we would have seen one great fight, and even perhaps a series of great fights.
     
  7. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I think Riddick Bowe takes more flack for not fighting Lewis, than Lewis does for getting knocked out by Mcall and Rahman. Its amazing really to just assume Lewis would easily beat Bowe, who at his best, was undefeated and completely took apart the best version Evander Holyfield. At that time Lewis didnt have the movement of Holyfield or even the jab. His footwork was not good at all, and he was more of a fighter who liked to mix it up, using his jab as a probe to setup the big telegraphed right hand.
    Under Steward, he improved his footwork and balance, and learned to use his jab to establish distance, fight at range, and setup his punches so he wasnt off balance. Watch the fights with Bruno and Ruddock, even though it was a showing of power and atheleticism by a big man, it also showed how poor his balance and footwork was at the time. To me the missed fight against Bowe could have been the best thing for Lennox, because Bowe could have done a real number on Lewis which could have changed the course of his career. Bowe wouldnt have knocked him out like Mcall, he would have beat him down over a good amount of rounds.
     
  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Bowe. I believe him to be more versitile and a hell of alot tougher.
    Bowe was a very well schooled fighter who lacked the discipline to be an all time great even though he had the talent. Bowe was also an excellant inside fighter while Lewis was scarred to death to go inside.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

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    This pretty much sums it up for me. The biggest difference between the two was that Bowe peaked in '94, while Lewis continued to improve.

    There lies the difference in who would win in their primes.
     
  10. JIm Broughton

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    Lewis by KO. He did it in the amateurs against Bowe if I remember correctly and I'm sure this is why Bowe refused to fight him again. He knew what would happen if they met. You would think Bowe would want to avenge that earlier ko but instead he threw his belt in the trash rather than fighting Lennox again. I wonder if Ali, Marciano or many other ATG's would have done the same.
     
  11. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    This is such a broad statement. There is more to it than that. First off Bowe had just won the title. His first fight after winning the title was against Lewis. There was no chance for him to take some easy paydays. Second the fight in the amatuers wasnt a one sided beating for Bowe to be scared of Lewis over. If you watch the fight, they were standing eights and the stoppage at the second one was premature in my opinion Bowe wasnt knocked out or hurt. In fact he was hurt a lot worse against Gonzalez, who he later brutalized in the pros. And last, Lewis had gained the title, and Bowe had two belts. Lewis was knocked out by Mcall, thus derailing any chance for a unification fight. So it wasnt so one sided like so many think.
     
  12. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bowe has the shortest prime in the history of boxing... 1 fight against Holyfield - We may as well hold Buster Douglas as having a great prime for his Tyson fight.
     
  13. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just imagine if a non American had done it!!
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree and disagree. I've seen the olympic fight and I tend to agree that it was a premature stoppage, at least by professional standards it was. I assume it wasn't under olympic rules.

    But that aside, they would certainly have known how hard each one punched, their perspective hand and foot speeds, etc and a variety of other things that might have come into play in Bowe's decision not to avenge his loss.

    One would have thought it would have been a priority to avenge this loss and it seems to me it would have been a great marketing tool.

    As far as winning the title and expecting easy paydays, that seems a little contradictory to me. There really shouldn't be any easy paydays for someone defending the heavyweight title of the world. They want to make money, do it the old fashon way, fight the best fighters out there and let marketing and the promoters take care of the rest.
     
  15. Marciano

    Marciano AmicoDiNessuno Full Member

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    Lewis By TKO

    I have see a 2 Fights With Golota, Bowe had Many Problems in all 2 Fights with Golota and Lewis have Play in the Ring with Golota and The end was a Brutal Knockout no sorry Bowe no Chance With Lewis !!!
    And sorry my English is Not so Good i Learn ;) :patsch