Roach/team Pacman trying soooo hard..lo

Exactly and only difference is that Cotto will last longer. Don't expect to see Cotto far bigger with both in the ring.

 

you have a very fair argument, I think that you are underestimating Cotto's speed, power, timing and boxing ability.

I beleive that he is a better boxer than Paq

I also think that Cotto will hit Paq cleanly, which ODL anf Hatton failed to do and Paq is going to be hurt in this fight no question

 

I don't think I've ever had a harder time picking a winner. I'm truely on the fence with this one. I think Cotto is being severely underrated here.

 

No I'm not underestimating ANYTHING Cotto has and I know what he has very well as I'm a fan of his too and have been since his amateur days.

Sure he will hit Pac, I'm not saying he won't but people make it sound like as soon as Pac gets caught he's out cold for some unknown reason. If he's put in a situation where he has to take his punch I am pretty sure he will take it and answer back with 3 or 4 extremely fast ones of his own.

Let me tell you in boxing speed can stomp on skills if used properly. That's why in the amateurs you see some fighters who have shitloads of skills run into average guys with serious speed and end up losing. A perfect example is Amir Khan's journey in the olympics, Amir Khan never had serious skills it was all speed, he fought some seriously experienced guy from Kazakhstan and ended up winning just because his speed was too much to handle even though the Kazakh fighter is FAR more experienced and has serious skills.

Cotto's speed is good, just like Hatton's speed is also good but when you run into someone WAY faster you end up looking like a zombie. Hopkins looked like a zombie fighting Calzaghe yet looked like Muhammad Ali fighting Pavlik and that's just one example out of many.

 

I expect cotto to be at around 154-158. 160 and he's going to be a slow moving targer for pacquiao. His punch will probably be harder but if he can't connect to a fast moving target like pacquiao then it will be an early night. Also, I don't expect pacquiao to be bombing Cotto like he did Hatton. It will be a little bit of what we saw in the Diaz and ODLH fight. More of the ODLH fight. There is one flaw that i noticed that I am pretty sure Roach already noticed it and it will be obvious come fight night. I noticed it when Cotto fought Margarito, Mosley Clottey Jennings and especially during the Judah fight.

 

That's EXACTLY what I meant when I said he will be moving in and out with punches, the Diaz fight. You will see Pacquiao perform a lot like that in this one, he was looking to do the same against Hatton too by the way but as soon as he noticed this guy can't take his punch he went KO mode but still cautious/smart/calm with it.

I'm expecting him to do that successfully in the first three rounds against Cotto till he finally hurts him then it will be KO mode from there with chain knockdowns.

 

as usual you make a very compelling argument dude, I cant wait for the fight to happen so that we can get answers to these questions

 

what was that flaw i am curious

 

Can't wait too. One thing is for sure, it will be a great action packed night. :good

 

I agree, I remember the Mosley vs Cotto fight. Everyone was saying "Mosley is too fast for Cotto." Then when the fight start, I even admit that I was shocked by how Cotto's handspeed improved.

Idk, I think Cotto's 3 fights are enough for him to see where he needs to improve his style, and his corner

 

I can't believe people are actually using Pacquiao-Hatton as a barometer for Pacquiao-Cotto. Miguel Cotto is more Juan Manuel Marquez than Ricky Hatton.

It not his hand speed, it's his timing. This is how he can beat faster fighters to the punch and score knockdowns with jabs.

 

Bronx, it's too early to hype your fighter. We know already what Cotto can do based in his previous fights. Let's just wait for the confirmation of this fight. Then, let's see what will happen on fight night.

 

I'll stay away from the question of who's the better boxer for now.

Anyways, I imagine that Pac's going to carry a high guard to this fight, because I'd say he'd rather take a chance taking body shots from Cotto than to the chin (good chin but untested at 147, especially against probably the hardest hitting WW). Cotto hasn't really been effective with the body attack as of late (last time was against Quintana, Mosley - no, Clottey - no, Margarito - uhhhhh...), but the option is certainly there against Pacquiao. If Pacquiao can take those well, then the advantage with trading (which Pac probably does not want to do, he'll go in-out and try to combo) I'd say goes to Pacquiao. I don't doubt that Pacquiao will be hurt in this fight though; he needs a lot more time to grow into a 147-frame that can rehydrate to 155+ without losing his speed, yet he only scaled 142 against DLH and rehydrated to 148. And it appears that his body structure can't accomodate an effective 155+, at least not yet if ever.

Cotto doesn't exactly keep his arms together when guarding, so I imagine that Pac can land a lot of straights (both the tagging ones and the power ones), and it's probable that Pacquiao will land with hooks that start at some wickedly low angles, so we'll see how Cotto's eyes (from the straights) and chin holds up. Pac's likely to accumulate damage to those parts. (Plus Roach is probably going to have Pac develop his uppercuts quite a bit considering Cotto has not been able to defend those effectively, the Roach factor is always a serious one).

So my prediction is:

FOTY that's barely inside the distance either way

 

This fight will be huge i can't wait until they sign

 

Hell to the mother ****ing NO! The closest I've seen anybody fight like Juan Manuel Marquez is his brother and Vazquez! I won't even compare Mayweather to Marquez. Before the Mosley Cotto fight,I thought Mosley was gonna be faster BUT I was so wrong. He wasn't moving the way I expected him to be. He is not as fast as he used to be. Fast hands yes but Mosley didn't move fast.