Is Haye gonna get frozen out of the title picture??

And he will. its not like he i past it. he has time on his side.
Its just whoever he fights will be a bum, over rated fill in your own cliche here.
The guy is on a hiding to nothing untill he fights one of the robots.

 

My point is that that's why people weren't questioning Jones' right to step up for a championship fight at HW. Haye is no Jones, (nor is he Michael Spinks) and that's why people are questioning why he gets to go directly to the front of the line at HW. He needs to earn it.

 

Your pissing in to the wind with that argument.
So your saying Roy Jones had more of a right than haye to fight at heavy simply because he is Roy Jones jr. WHAT THE ****.
He has no more right than you or i.
Im sorry mate but your argument is slightly demented.:huh

 

Good . . . he shouldn't be getting a title crack this early anyway.

As Wlad said . . . he should fall in line and earn his shot.

 

Sorry, mate , but if that argument doesn't make sense then you're demented. Jones, ATG. Spinks, ATG. Haye, not ATG. Simple math.

 

Exactly. All Haye did was postpone his date with the canvas.:yep

 

Whateveratsch
What about Pascal moving up a weight and taking the wbc belt of Diaconu. what did he do to deserve a shot at a light heavy belt.?
Or Calzaghe moving up to take the Ring belt from Hopkins etc etc etc.
See your talking out of your bum.

 

Stop man seriously. In the heavyweight division is a whole different world my friend. In the heavyweights, fighters don't have to worry about making the weight in which they can weigh whatever. Why you think theres no heavyweight fighter that is in top 10 or top 20 p4p?

 

I know that. you have missed the original argument.
He was saying that Haye has no right to chalenge for the heavy weight title as he has done nothing at heavy weight.
And i said that nobody seemed to mind when roy Jones moved straight up to Heavy and took Ruiz's belt after fighting nobody at heavy.
At least Haye has faught 2 heavys. Not that it matters.
And he seems to think that Roy Jones is ok to do that simply because he is Roy Jones. (which is just bull ****)
I only named those fighters as a very loose example.
Not the best but the best i could think of at the time.

 

I see what you're saying Crespo but Roy Jones went for the weakest heavyweight champion in Ruiz. If Jones went up to face Lewis who was the man like Haye is doing by going for the Klits then i agree with you.

 

Exactly.:good

 

The argument isnt whether haye deserved a shot. Lots of LHW in the past went straight to a HW title shot. If your a champ in one division you earn the right to challenge the champ at another division.

The issue is that haye would have had to take much less money to fight wlad because he made a huge mammoth idiot decision with setanta. He needed a way to back out of the fight because he has poor judgment. So he made up the back injury, ****ed his fans and wlads fans out of the fight. So haye is a liar and obviously a dumb financial guy and you still see guys like this crespo defend him..

Hes obviously a bias brit with no sense. If haye was an honorable guy he would have been honest, taken his lumps for beign an idiot with finances and still salvaged the fight at a MUCH reduced rate. However, haye is selfish and didnt care about his fans.

 

Thanks Buddy:good

 

If only boxing was as simple as you make it sound.
There are things called contracts and when you break them you have to pay compensation which can run in to millions and the only way out of these is through injury.
Haye didnt know Setanta would go bust. Nobody knew about it so that point you make is ****ing rediculous.
There was nowhere to get a reduced rate from. WLAD had all the other tv deals and the ticket sales.
Was Wlad going to pay Haye to fight him. (i dont ****ing think so).
So that leaves the only source of income which is ice cream sales and hot dogs.
And something tells me that that will not cover the costs of having your team with you which can run in to millions.
If you cant see that then frankly your obviously a little bit stupid.
Im not here defending Wlad or Haye im just pointing out facts that you dohnut eating armchair fans dont seem to understand.
The guy already paid out for his training camp and all the **** that go's with it like sparring partners (they dont work for free either) etc and lost a lot of money.
Why risk bankrupting yourself just to keep internet idiots happy.
When you actually no what your blabbering on about feel free to add to the debate.
But in the mean time do your homework as you only make yourself look a fool in the long run.

 

You concede that Haye faked an injury to get out of a contract to which he was bound, lied to his fans (which he shouldnt care about) and wasnt smart enough to arrange better finances, then you go on to justify him backing out. Nice counter argument. :good