Ali vs Wlad/Lewis/Vitali... how does he win?

Vitali keeping up with 67 Ali's speed is a joke.

 

Yeah, 208 pounds Spinks is really going to batter Sam Peter...:-(
All it takes is one rabbit punch by Peter and Spinks would be damaged goods from there on.

 

People swinging from 60s and 70s fighters nutsacks are funny.

There is no reason to believe that boxing did not progress, and that expanded competition from other countries would not make mince meat from the so called greats who gained their reputation by fighting each other in their own little backyard.

Either Klitchko or Lewis will clean Ali's clock. Many of today's other heavyweights will be thoroughly competitive in any era. They are better schooled then you think.

Stupid dick suckers are just upset that there are no half decent American fighters anymore. That clouds the judgment.

 

Better schooled in what way? Give me an example of boxing progressing skill wise and not just in size.

 

Ali would expose Wlad's lack of toughness and stamina issues, as well as weak chin in the later rounds. So for all posters claiming Wlad would beat Ali, what does Wlad have better than Ali aside from strength and power? I watched enough of both men to know who the superior fighter is, and that is Ali. Wlad has showed weakness against every tough oppenent he has faced, which are 2nd and 3 rate fighters in anyones book. Ali never lost to a journeymen in his prime, or knocked out by a complete nobody. Wlad has, and he still looks like a fragile fighter when the going gets tough.

Wlad is not a born fighter, he's a manufactured fighter.

 

Indeed. But discussing Vitali in any conversation that includes Ali is completely laughable.

 

Take Wlad's **** out of your mouth before you speak, you ****ing ***.

Ali dropped and stopped many great heavyweights without having amazing power, Moore, Liston, Foreman, and Frazier. Which is 5 more hall of fame/ATG heavyweights than Wlad ever beat. It's called punch placement, something you learn when you train in a gym for several years, something you probably never did, judging by your posts.

Wlad lost to Brewster and Sanders when he had close to 40 fights under his belt, and was WBO champ. He turned pro in 96, and lost to Sanders in 03, thats 7-8 years of being a professional. I would say he was in his prime, or at least a seasoned vet.

Your the minority in your way of thinking, I'm the majority. Thats have a vote and see who people think is right and who people think is wrong. I suggest you shut the **** up and go back to beating off to your Wlad posters you probably got plastered all over your room.

 

First, just to clear a matter up. Ali's prime was in the mid sixties. He made some adjustments in his 'second' career, and was still formidable from 1970-75. But his speed was gone.


In response to your main point, many, including Joe Louis, couldn't imagine a way for Ali to beat Liston. He was a serious underdog.


A decade later, nobody could imagine a way for him to beat Foreman. But he did.

A big part of his genius was to figure out HOW to beat the 'unbeatables.'

And he could do it on the fly, making gameplan changes mid fight.

 

I like how Ali is all of a sudden tiny in people's mind. He was 6'3!

 

BTW, I like Wlad, but he wouldn't beat Ali. Or Joe Louis for that matter. Or some others off the top of my head...

 

What the ****'s with the attitude, son ?

You asked a question and I politely responded.

I watched his career in real time from Liston on. What heresay are you rattling on about ?


If you don't want to hear opposing viewpoints, don't start a ****ing thread.

 

Oh and one thing I forgot.

By the main thrust of your reasoning (size), Valuev should probably be able to beat all great heavys who ever stepped into the ring.