Whats the point in Hatton fighting on?

I think that if you did a bit of digging you would find that this route is well travelled...Hennessy was after a re-match with Bradley, but no go. If you think that Witter is ducking Timothy Bradley you are insane.

 

I think that it will be game on if Witter gets past Alexander in August

 

I'm not nitpicking, you brought up Lascano and I was attempting to put that fight in context for you, as a confidence builder after a loss like most fighters take.

I'm sorry but lets be realistic after 2005 there was no real pressure for Hatton to fight Witter. For whatever reason Hatton didn't want to fight Witter and it was very easy to do after he'd beaten Zoo.

 

OK I see your point,

My post has only ever been about the Witter issue, anyone accusing Hatton ov ducking Bradley are just plain stupid, Hatton took on Mayweather & that shows he's got the balls. I've not seen any other postes on hatton so know i can understand the responce 2 mine, I'am being a sort ov devils advocate here as this Witter issue has irked me 4 years & what with Hatton fans responce 2 the question just makes it all the more annoying. It's just a British domestic issue i'am interested in.

I was at the Hatton/Pacquiao fight so after that shocker i suggest he can close his carear with a Witter showdown, i've no sympathy 4 Hatton with regard 2 Pacquiao as if you choose 2 go on a cruise & get pissed 24/7 rather than get in shape for the fight ov yer life then it's all over.

 

Oooh, a Hatton - Witter debate, how original.

 

No **** :-(

 

I don't avoid the question. I've answered it plenty of times and my response is that I just don't see it as particularly important. I'm looking at this from a bigger picture perspective rather than just a local, tribal one, the world picture if you like. And when a fighter has stepped into the ring against 3/4 p4p fighters, plus a similar number who were decent world champions, another one along the same lines does not hold any specific attractions regardless of where he's from. 20 years down the line, the likes of Steve Farhood and Doug Fischer will not remember who Junior Witter was when referring to Hatton's career.

As I say I would have watched and cheered had it happened. If not, it's no big deal in my view. Certainly not when you review Hatton's career. It will matter much more for Witter because he doesn't have many other big fights to fall back on the way Hatton does. And for the record, I certainly think he would beat Witter. I just don't see what Witter has besides awkwardness that would win him the fight as opposed to make it competitive. His power is no more than decent at world level and he likes to work at his own pace at a suitable range. He wouldn't be allowed to do that by Hatton. I suspect the bookies would have Hatton a significant favourite as well.

The point regarding regional allegiances is valid as a lot of Hatton's support hails from Manchester and the surrounding regions. Hence why he can draw 50,000 at the C.O.M stadium. I don't think all of those guys would make the trip down to Wembley and there would be no local equivalent supporting either guy. Hardcore boxing fans are not enough to make up the difference IMO and neither would Witter's negligible fan base be.

I give Witter respect, that is not what this is about. However, I do not like him being built into more than he is just for the purposes of people having a pop at Hatton. As regards the management, sorry but it is his fault. If his current management weren't doing the business, he should have shot foot over to the States and set about trying to impress over there, where he would have had opportunity for some bigger fights. Hatton was able to get good opponents over here, but still went stateside to try for the megafights. It's called taking control of your own career.

 

I have never said nor implied that Witter "doesn't deserve a shot at Hatton". I hate that line of reasoning in relation to any fighter, IMO if you're top ten ranked and have beaten some world level opponent's you're reasonably worthy of a shot. However, with a fighter in that situation it is up to him to go out and get the shot. This means either becoming a mandatory or else putting some serious offer on the table (as opposed to simply talking to the press).

It comes back to the point I made in my last post re: his management team. If they didn't have the financial muscle to make a reasonable offer then he should have gone to someone who could. It's no use just slipping Hatton his number and saying "call me Ricky", which takes all the emphasis off himself. Like I say, I would have thought of this as a good fight, but if not it's hardly the be all and end all. There are plenty of world class options out there for both men, which Hatton has at least been proactive about pursuing.

As for Mayweather, let's be honest, his bout with Hatton was not signed because Hatton made a snide dig at him in the heat of the moment afer a big win. It was signed because Hatton put a shedload of money on the table and was willing to let him have the lion's share of it. As for Witter, he is always equally rude about Hatton and even hypocritical (Lazcano is not an acceptable comeback opponent but Castro is fine). Bottom line, Hatton just doesn't want to give him a payday and potentially make him a big name. And when you consider what Hatton has done with the rest of his career and look at the big picture as opposed to minor level regional issues, it's not a big issue. As I stated, some haters would like to believe it is for the purposes of pushing an agenda, but this is delusional at best.

 

I take yer point, Obviously the Hatton camp had 2 hit the states & try 2 break in over there once Warren was blown out so it goes without saying that a Witter fight is a 100% non starter for the risk against $$$ factor.

It's just that when Witter held the WBC belt & Hatton coming off the Mayweather loss maybe the Witter could have been made then, Hatton's allready an extreamly wealthy young man so it's not a case of him going short, i really do believe this is a fantastic match up at this stage of both their carears.

The question begs this: Are Hatton fans confident that he'd beat Witter, too me it appears NO they are not.

 

It's never really been a matter of risk or $$$ IMO. Simply a matter of look, I don't like this guy I'm damned if I'm giving him a payday or putting him in the spotlight. However many times the same old threads get brought up this is unlikely to change at this late stage in the day. As per my previous post, I am very confident that Hatton would have beaten Witter in the mid 00s. If they were to fight now, I'd have to see how he looked in comeback from the Pac fight because losses like that can take it out of a guy. But as I said, it's realistically never going to happen so why all the threads I don't know.

 

[quote="TKO";4355078]I don't like this guy I'm damned if I'm giving him a payday or putting him in the spotlight[/quote]

This should never be a reason for not taking someone on, its lame, in fact if you don't like someone show him how much you don't like him in the ring. Do fighters have to love and respect every opponent they face?...its always sounded a tad too convenient to me. :hey

 

[quote="TKO";4355047]I have never said nor implied that Witter "doesn't deserve a shot at Hatton". I hate that line of reasoning in relation to any fighter, IMO if you're top ten ranked and have beaten some world level opponent's you're reasonably worthy of a shot. However, with a fighter in that situation it is up to him to go out and get the shot. This means either becoming a mandatory or else putting some serious offer on the table (as opposed to simply talking to the press).

It comes back to the point I made in my last post re: his management team. If they didn't have the financial muscle to make a reasonable offer then he should have gone to someone who could. It's no use just slipping Hatton his number and saying "call me Ricky", which takes all the emphasis off himself. Like I say, I would have thought of this as a good fight, but if not it's hardly the be all and end all. There are plenty of world class options out there for both men, which Hatton has at least been proactive about pursuing.

As for Mayweather, let's be honest, his bout with Hatton was not signed because Hatton made a snide dig at him in the heat of the moment afer a big win. It was signed because Hatton put a shedload of money on the table and was willing to let him have the lion's share of it. As for Witter, he is always equally rude about Hatton and even hypocritical (Lazcano is not an acceptable comeback opponent but Castro is fine). Bottom line, Hatton just doesn't want to give him a payday and potentially make him a big name. And when you consider what Hatton has done with the rest of his career and look at the big picture as opposed to minor level regional issues, it's not a big issue. As I stated, some haters would like to believe it is for the purposes of pushing an agenda, but this is delusional at best.[/quote]

Come-on now, we both now any fight can be made!! love him or hate him i think Witter deserves a crack at Ricky, i agree with your post 100% regarding the managment set up's of both camps & of course i'd expect hennessy 2 come out with some looney pay demand but everything gets straightened out if yer really want the fight & Witter would have 2 accept 35% tops, but it just seems Hatton is behaving in a unnecessary spitefull manor, there could be no better glory than shutting up yer biggest distrator, Hatton can make this fight if he wishes especially at this stage of his carear as he is not a shot fighter, never mind, i'll dream on:happy

 

Sorry to snip your post...

I honestly wouldn't have a clue who would win if they met now, its too hard to say what either man has left in the tank. Prime for prime I'd take Hatton to work his way to a fairly clear points win.

 

Thats been my point exactly:thumbsup

 

Its a strange one but if you look at Hattons record where else has he shown hes afraid to fight someone? I don't know the truth behind it but thats got to count for something IMHO.

The risk/ reward arguement doesn't hold because we're constantly being told how big a fight it would be, what a great earner it would be for Hatton and what a greedy businessman he is!!