Pavlik vs Sturm in doubt

How so?? Taylor had a hell of a lot deeper division to choose from. I don't want to go here cause I'm a huge fan of Taylor's, but even he, after beating Mr. Hopkins fought Winky (arguably best @ 154, but great fighter), then Ouma=154, and Spinks = 154....then he fought Pavlik.

Both Sturm and AA were around then too. 154 was a lot hotter it seemed, and the 154's had more reason to try to come to '60 then, where as now for obvious reasons it makes sense to try to get down to '47.

Pavlik has a lot less options now that Miranda and Taylor have moved out, Winky was all but gone from the map, and the '54's can make better money at WW.

 

ive stopped caring about pavlik & the bull**** tactics arum is using with him,make the abraham fight already for ****s sake.

 

Come on Scar!:rofl Step out side the box and look at your post there! It's pure hatred.:rofl

Taylor fought 3 154's after he fought Hopkins....but that shits all over Pavlik at this stage? I know that you know that I know that you know that I'm a Taylor fan too.:yep

 

Pavlik/Abraham is shaping up to look a lot like Calzaghe/Lacy. Tons of people are hyping an undefeated, but vastly over rated, titlist to take out the best in the division. The same people insist that the best man is "ducking" the over-hyped titlist. In the end we'll get s similar result, but the end result will be much worse for Arthur than it was for Jeff, because Kelly ain't no slapper.

 

****er.:bart

That's it! We're not friends ANY MORE!!!

 

Quick, call Sauerland and explain to him that the champ does not take the small end of the money! Maybe then the fight will happen. Until Sauerland gets serious with something besides press releases, the fight won't happen.

 

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i like pavlik man,i like his attitude but arum has put the brakes on his career big time,its sad to see.

 

You're puttin' me in a hell of a hard spot here! One is my fave and the other is tied for 2nd with about 3-4 other cats. I can't argue against Taylor, damn it!

BUT, are you tryin' to say Taylor could have NOT fought Pavlik??!! After Pavlik won TWO WBC eliminators in a row, both on HBO, and one of them was on a Taylor undercard?? The same one where Merchant asked my man Taylor what he thought about Pavlik gettin' the big bad Miranda out of there, and would he fight Pavlik as a result? What was Taylor's answer again? I can't remember.:hey

 

The only reason Taylor/Mora did not happen is because Mora pulled out. Jermain WANTED to fight Mora. Kelly threatened to leave Top Rank over the Mora fight. And the WBC threatened to strip Jermain if he did not fight Kelly. Taylor was forced to fight Pavlik because KP was the mandatory. Don't try to make Taylor into some kind of hero for taking that fight. That is revisionist history my freind.

And by the why, who did Kelly fight immediately after he won the title? He did the same thing JT did. He rematched the guy he won the title from. It was Jermain that wanted the catchweight, not KP.

 

I know what you're sayin'.....since the "Rocket" fight, being a hard core Pavlik fan has been like sewing your ass hole shut and eating a whole box of Exlaxes.:!:

Arum..:twisted:

 

As per my man Taylor's answer to Merchant, the Pavlik fight HAD to have represented the most MONEY.

Scar: he fought X2 154's but look at the plans he had..:rofl:rofl:rofl

That's good **** Scar, you're a funny guy. LOL.:yep

 

So it's Arum's fault that Kelly's wife just had a baby, and KP wanted some time off? Or, are you saying it's Arum's fault that KP chased hard after a Calzaghe fight that Joe ducked out of. Oh wait, I know why you're blaming Arum! It must be Bob's fault that KP and Team Pavlik lied to him about Kelly's injury and illness going into the Hopkins fight.

Is it Arum's fault that Sauerland's idea of negotiating is to issue a series of press releases while insisting that The Champ take the small money when behind closed doors?

Don't be so damn myopic. Try looking at the big picture.