Pavlik vs Sturm in doubt

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Scar, Jun 28, 2009.


  1. sst

    sst Active Member Full Member

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    There you go no one can even remember his name anymore. Show me a venue in America with over 60,000 fans in watching a boxing match? Wake up everyone knows the money is leaving America like rats from a sinking ship. I am sure A.A. is just burning with desire to fight in a venue with a few thousand fans fighting for a another Don King type that will short both camps on payday. Give it a rest and look at the facts. America is not what it used to be. Not even close.
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    What's funny about it? :lol:, didn't he also fight Winky Wright and Kelly Pavlik?, aren't those two fights enough proof that the guy was there to fight the best?
     
  3. negrotigre

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    Yup, I think they believe Sturm could win and another world title would be paraded around Germany, like Wlad and Vitaly's belts.
     
  4. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Man, you do remember 2007 don't you?? Pavlik was on HBO knockin' fools out left and right....Main one bieng Pantera, who was sending Taylor public call outs once a week calling JT a ***** and all types of bull ****. Press conference for the double header consisted of nothing but JT and Miranda fighting like crazy....it was if Pavlik and Spinks were not even there. HBO shows a 15 minute documentary on Miranda, and then was like "Oh yeah, some white boy from Ohio is here too" as Pavlik all but runs to the ring. Pavlik then knocks the mother ****er out, in Memphis, considered by Mora to be JT's hometown, and asks for his right to fight Taylor...having won his second consecutive eliminator.

    NOW, you gonna tell me JT could have just dropped the WBC to fight ANY BODY else, and not get clowned to death???
     
  5. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I can't find fault with anything you said here. However, I do not believe for one minute that Sauerland is some kind of innocent victim. When Pav was on OTG he said straight out he wasn't going to take a cut in pay to fight Abraham.

    Sauerland's so called "offers" are not what he wants people to believe they are. Everything adds up to look like Sauerland is under the illusion that his man is both "The Champ" and "the draw." Abraham is neither.
     
  6. Hermit

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    Let Sauerland take this out of his 'contract package' with German TV and market it separately and put that money in the pot instead of hiding it under his package deal. There was over $3 million just for Sturm.
     
  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Didn't JT say he would fight whoever brings the most money after his fight? At the time that definitely wasn't Kelly.
     
  8. Hermit

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    JT wanted the keep his title by making the first match at a catch weight. :rofl
     
  9. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    I was just ****in' with you that time...:lol:. Taylor was, is, and will be one of my favorites.
     
  10. Scar

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    Just like Saurland has his share of lies, Arum falls in the same category too so neither one can be considered an innocent victim.
     
  11. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Damn Herms, you beat me to my Ace In the Hole...:rofl:lol:.

    I was savin' that one for the perfect opening, that I'm sure ol' Scar was gonna leave in the later rounds...:lol:
     
  12. Scar

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    He would definitely get clowned but it wasn't impossible for him to do that. He could have ignored Winky Wright too. Taylor was there to fight everyone available and since Pavlik was hot at the time he took on him immediately without wasting time. As a matter of fact, the Pavlik/Miranda fight was on the undercard of a Taylor fight for a reason and we both know what reason that is.
     
  13. Hermit

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    I'm gonna have to bookmark this one. :lol:
     
  14. Scar

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    Wrong, it was because he openly stated/admitted he's having difficulties making weight at 160. The rematch was at a catchweight so even if Taylor won Pavlik would have kept his belts too.
     
  15. Scar

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    Am I the only one to consider Pavlik the best?, isn't he currently the best at Middleweight?, wasn't he considered the best opponent before Taylor fought him the first time?