Prime JOE LOUIS v Prime JACK JOHNSON!!!

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  1. ClintMagnum

    ClintMagnum Antitheist Full Member

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    By the time Jack Johnson got his title shot many years of prime fighting was behind him. Has any fighter had to prove himself so much in order to get a title?
    Joe Louis was the product of the legacy Johnson paved and he was the acceptable face of black boxing. Louis' associates refused to even let Johnson train Louis in case his reputation was tarnished.
    Both boxers are two of my ATG and I would dearly have loved to see them in my era.

    BIG, BIG and controversial question. In a 25 round x 3 min fight, in their primes, face to face, how do you think the fight goes?? :bbb
     
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  2. Hydraulix

    Hydraulix Left Hook From Hell.. Full Member

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    Jack Johnson was a scientific fighter. He predicted that Max Schmeling would knock out Joe Louis with an overhand right because Louis had a habit of dropping his left after jabbing. And of course, this is exactly what happened in their first fight.

    Both Johnson and Louis were fighters who exploited the weaknesses of their opponents. Overall, I'd say that Louis takes this one because he's the faster and stronger fighter. But Johnson might take the pre- Schmeling version of Joe Louis.
     
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  3. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Louis
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Thats rather whats going through my mind.
     
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  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Louis stronger then Johnson? :lol:
     
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  6. HomicideHenry

    HomicideHenry Many Talents, No Successes Full Member

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    Funny side note, for a short time, Johnson called out Joe Louis!

    Jack Blackburn said something along the lines of, "That big cat dont give no one credit, he'd want no part of Chappie!"
     
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  7. FINITO

    FINITO Boxing Junkie banned

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    Louis would have took him out early.
     
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  8. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If it's 25 rounds then the farther it goes, the better Johnson's chances get. It's pretty much 50/50 for me. I say Johnson UD.
     
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  9. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Louis, by decision.
     
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  10. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Gloved boxing was much more developed in Louis' time and it showed. Johnson was used to his opponents making one, wild amateurish swing and then wrestle for twenty seconds and then repeat. Louis would crash in combinations and knock him out within 10 rounds, in my opinion.
     
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I like Johnson by decision.
     
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  12. mightyd40

    mightyd40 Spartan Full Member

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    louis for me, johnson probably has a slight advantage but joe gets to him eventually
     
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  13. Murali

    Murali Member Full Member

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    Johnson's ring generalship and fleet-footed movement would be the difference. Especially over 25 rounds! Prime against prime I say Johnson wins a clear UD or triumphs via late stoppage.

    Big Jack was a more complete fighter than Joe Louis imo, even though Louis achieved more. And we're talking prime against prime. Would have been a fascinating fight!
     
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  14. spittle8

    spittle8 Dropping Fisticuffs Full Member

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    Louis by KO.
     
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  15. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, I reckon so. Johnson had never seen the types of combos Louis threw.
    I don't even think the 25 round limit makes any difference.
     
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