Cotto @ 145... So?

Okay? That does not mean he didn't sign the fight at 135 and expect to make the weight. Just like Cotto has done.

 

lol!

 

Dont all start proclaiming me to be a Cotto nuthugger, but have any of you thought about cotto finding the chance to fight pac-man too good of a financial opportunity to turn down? regardless of the risk in weight-loss to his chances?

 

im trying but its a lot. if I dont do them all don't feel like im ignoring you

 

Floyd stated when he jumped up to 147 4 yrs or 5 yrs ago he was having difficulties makeing 140 brah. Not that he couldn't but he didn't want to struggle making weight.

But even so....PAC ain't really a Jr WW. That's just where he "CHOSE" to finish out his career after becoming the linear Jr WW champ.

 

But I thought its just 1lb? How would 1lb make a weight flux of 5lbs?

 

No he didn't. He never stated he jumped up to 147 because he was struggling to make weight. That's 100% false.

He jumped to 147 because there was nothing left to do at 140 because he was being ducked.

 

I haven't said Cotto can't handle it. I said he's on the edge. And Cotto isn't going to weight 5lbs less because he cut an extra pound of waterweight.

He's going to weigh the same, assuming he chooses to not cut muscle mass prior.

 

Of course not! Fighters sometimes wait too long before listening to their bodies. Look at what happened with Guzzy vs Nate. Guzzy moved up after failing to make weight with Nate and Nate BASHED him....then Nate goes ahead says he's looking to move up b/c he too is having trouble with 135 and ends up missing 135 against Ali. The point is they are NO LONGER 135 pound fighters if they struggle to the point where they can't make the weight. THere are always struggles cutting weight but some can do it if they are in fact true to that weight class...meaning their body and builds support it in the loosing of weight before fights.

 

Cotto was given the opportunity to weigh in at 147 and weighed 146.

He's not longer given the option. That's not a ww fight but a catchweight under the WW limit.

 

You should let me answer all of them before replying.

Yes I Understand what you are saying but my point is, Cotto has agreed to fight Pac at 145. His trainer says thats the limit he can do without hurting himself.

If he goes lower he hurts himself, but when you are the edge, that edge can sometimes bump itself closer than you expect.

 

Naw brah! You good. I just had a lot of time early this morning. But I like your arguements! You at least post "REASONS" for your stance. It's a healthy debate! Who's right or wrong will never be revealed but you make strong arguements even if we are on opposited ends.

 

To be fair its Roach that is the cause of all this ****, Had he not publicly stated his views on the weight factor there would be no room for excuses, had he not admitted that he saw the IV mark on Oscars arm, people probably wouldnt know about that to this day, Yet Roach is the one who seems to openly say I have to get my fighter all the advantages I can get him....

Meaning if your tired of hearing about it Freddy do not shoot yourself in the foot and make statements like this, do not admit you took advantage of a weight drained Morales or De La Hoya or this fighter was all done etc...

Most of this comes from Freddys own mouth and the fans take it at face value if he kept his mouth shut most people wouldnt know things like the IV mark or that Morales was not only shot but killed himself to make the weight etc...

 

Im not saying he should. It was an example. Floyd and Pac weigh the same and people care about the weight advantage Pac gives up. Floyd gives up the same weight advantage so in theory, he should be able to do a catchweight to even things out yes?

Floyd is not a WW he just chooses to fight there.

 

WHAT?? Nah brah....I remember Maxboxing did an interview with Floyd during the time when they were leaning on Floyd for NOT clearing out the Jr WW division and moving up too quickly. He had fights to be made but decided that he wanted bigger fights and stated he wasn't making weight as easily! He said he'd be better at 147!