Will Khans chin get better with age??

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  1. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    part of the problem is his posture when taking shots, hes straight up and stiff


    also he really doesnt like to be punched if you understand me


    as for getting better with age,maybe. he might mature and be getting more used to the sensation of a world class punch. then again this is presumption and we all know about them and **** ups
     
  2. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    id forgotten about that jeff, i suppose that puts a new perspective on things:think

    but he can fight in a manner that protects his chin however he may have to become a quite boring safety first fighter to do so. lesser of two evils i suppose!
     
  3. brown bomber

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    I wouldn't be too worried about that chin... he is very fit and recovers fast, unless he meets a very good pressure fighter he will win nearly every time. At light welter i'd take Pac, Hatton, Campbell and Bradley to beat him but give him a good chance with most others. At lightweight there's a larger number of quality fighters who could beat him but most disasterous would be Juan Diaz and Marquez.
     
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    Bradley is one dimensional and, IMO, massively overrated. I like the way he wants to take on all comers but he's gonna get found out soon; for my money, by Nate. As for Khan against the best in the division, let's see if he beats Kotelnik first!
     
  5. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    re-watched their fight last night, the intensity and quality was breathtaking imo

    at lightweight also possibly valero, katsidis and maybe romanov, i like him


    at light-welter, those that you mentioned and youve gotta put maidana in there and maybe guzman (but who the hell knows watsup with him)


    how do you see the kotelnik fight playing out jeff?
     
  6. brown bomber

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    Khan UD very easy.... what do you think mate?
     
  7. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sorry i meant the actual fight round by round.....Khan comes out fast moving to his right with some flashy scoring combos......by about 5/6 the pace slows a bit and kotelnik closes the distance a bit landing some body shots. rounds 7/8/9 are close with the pace slowing and both fighters (as they have been known to do) pick up the pace in hte last 45 secs to steal the rounds


    10/11 khan is stung and from there..............??????? im not sure. with freddie roach keeping him focused on the plan and a home crowd he could dart in and out and have 2/3 good flurries to take the last 2.

    then again do you think maidanas v ortiz performance puts a new perspective on things?:think he was put down 3 times all the same.....confusion!:patsch
     
  8. Losfer_Words

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    The fact that he's German means he must be right! Icemax has already touched on this- you are right, dehydration is obviously a problem and, as I've said, the bloke was a monster for lightweight and, IMO, an accident waiting to happen at the weight. I'm really looking forward to seeing how he fares at LWW.
     
  9. izmat

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    It could improve as he goes up in weight.
    A young Pacman got knocked down by a jab once and look at him now.Apparently he used conditioning methods from other martial arts to improve his punch resistance.

    Not sure if that will work for Khan but he can always improve on his defence and fight smarter when he gets hurt.
     
  10. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think we read too much into all this chin stuff. Granted some people can take punches better than others but the human body was never designed to absorb damage inflicted by trained punchers.
     
  11. mughalmirza786

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    The nedal knockdown was legit. Pacquiao seems to have improved his punch resistance, marquez hit him with monster shots in their two fights and couldnt drop him. I have a theory about pacquiaos punch resistance though, roach refers to the 'bobble head technique'. Basically pacquiaos neck muscles are so relaxed, flexible and strong that they absorb the impact of punches thrown more than actual brain stem fluid. Look closely at the times manny has been punched hard especially in the second marquez fight. His neck is always relaxed and his head head acts like a bobble on a spring deflecting the impact of punches.

    I believe tests were carried out on marvin haglers head and doctors found that his skull structure was thicker than an average male and he had more brain fluid cushioning his brain.

    I think the most succesful method for increasing amir khans punch resistance is firstly, plenty of rough sparring from heavy hitters. Secondly, monitor khans weight as he matures. His physical prime should be around 26-28 as his body is still developing. Ask any dentist and he'll tell you that khans facial structure is developing. Finally Amir khan should constantly move his head and relax his shoulders and neck.

    If anyone wants to test the bobble head theory try sparring with your neck muscles tensed and see how much impact a jab makes and then spar with totally relaxed neck and shoulder muscles. I know this works because i spar myself. Your foremarms and hands should be tensed when blocking or punching.
     
  12. icemax

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    Thanks, I'll try it on the kids tonight :good...it actually sounds like an interesting theory
     
  13. felix

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    kids??? are you stupid. my nans been doing my head in for a while, time to make her useful.
     
  14. Gazmac81

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    i agree with the Plenty of Rough sparring comment should help Khans Chin
    i always though that with the amateur style of in and out without taking any punches means that when they do take a heavy shot there not used to it.

    Look at most of the journeymen out there getting battered from post to post , they can soak it up and take some monster shots from prospects.
     
  15. kieron

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    Hydration is a massive factor. I'm convinced that the main reason we see less serious brain injuries now than we did 15years ago is due to ditching same day weigh-ins as guys would boil down and not have sufficient time to rehydrate before fighting. I think there is also a kin of technique to taking a punch. A slight movement with a relaxed neck in the same direction as the punch can really take the sting out of it. In honesty a combination of everything that's been mentioned will certainly help but not sure he's there yet