Good evening. Have any questions regarding MMA?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by James23, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    It sounds like you have the perfect build for jiujitsu. The long arms and legs will be a disadvantage at first as you will find yourself leaving them out exposed to submissions - but once you learn defense - you;ll find that your length gives you the advantage in reaching around your opponent as well as finding it easier to lock triangle chokes and omoplatas on people.
     
  2. Dave_j1985

    Dave_j1985 Active Member Full Member

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    So when will you be making your UFC debut? Seeing as MMA isn't terribly difficult...
     
  3. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not saying its not difficult. Im simply saying its not as difficult as the thread starter is making it out to be.
     
  4. Dave_j1985

    Dave_j1985 Active Member Full Member

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    Fair enough, I just take exception when people say there is no skill involved. I'll be the first one to admit that alot of the time the striking looks sloppy, I won't make excuses a lot of the time it simply is sloppy. But people seem to neglect the world class grappling in MMA which takes a tremendous amount of skill despite what people think it looks like. Alot of the time the guys with sloppy striking are actually great grapplers.
     
  5. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah no doubt.

    Thats one of my biggest problems with it. I hate watching two grapplers duke it out because not only is it sloppy but it actually looks pathetic, embarassing and makes the sport look bad.

    People need to do what they do best, the best ones are the ones who do ie. Fedor, GSP, Machida.
     
  6. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Yo yo yo...so what you tryin to say is that you gotta have a level of a gayocity to be participatin in some shirt off roll around bull****?
     
  7. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    For real though...

    For this guy to say you gotta have a higher skillset in rollin around, then how come that mother ****er Brock will just about beat any mother ****ers ass?

    I mean, he made Coutour his *****...

    And while this may not be the best example per se, then why is it that guys like Chuck who are excellent at defending the takedown by using what I like to call, "a country sprawl," then why is he content with just tryin to knock mother ****ers out?

    And lastly, why is it that the transition of boxing champion from MMA is much harder than the transition from boxing champion to top MMAer?

    I mean, you're the one that said the skillset of boxing is less difficult to learn than wrestling, but if this is the case, you gotta be like what, Floyd Sr. or some ****?

    Cuz if you don't understand the intricities of boxing, I don't see how you can seriously comment on it in a way that makes you sound border line pretentious, when I can see clearly that if you use one particular defense and master it, you can block just about every attack.

    Try just one move in boxing...don't work like that.

    Ask Chuck when he ****ed around with Rampage.
     
  8. Dave_j1985

    Dave_j1985 Active Member Full Member

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    I see that often, 2 world class grapplers brawling. I don't know why, perhaps they firgure their ground skills cancel one another out or would rather be knocked out then beaten on the ground which is their specialty. For what ever reason these fights often look like bar room brawls.
     
  9. Dave_j1985

    Dave_j1985 Active Member Full Member

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    1. Umm because he has a higher skill set in 'rolling around' then most heavyweights.

    2. What else would you have him do with his sprawl?? He has a good enough wrestling to keep the fight standing up which is where I guess he is most comfortable. Up until lately it has been very effective, if only he'd learn to keep his hands up! Or maybe that's part of the reason he does have a good sprawl??

    3. Who said this?? That is a ridiculous statement, but it goes either way. Mastering grappling takes a great deal of skill as does boxing.

    4. Totally agree, Chuck had a lot of weapons in his arsenal (takedowns, kicks, wrestling) but he became a 1 dimensional fighter and tried to box with Rampage.
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To show what a great athlete GSP is, he was voted Canadian Male Athlete of the year. Other notable winners include Larry Walker, Wayne Gretzky (4 times), Mike Weir, and Steve Nash. and of course Terry Fox.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't know about that. I would say the average hockey player could pretty much kick your ass without working up a sweat and that would be in the pee wee league.
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bingo. This is a very important and often misunderstood point.
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We're not all that bad at it. I use to wrestle for the University of Regina and worked out with the national team. Later the national team moved to SFU which by luck I too have ended up moving to. While there I got to watch a wrestler by the name of Daniel Igali, who ended up winning olympic gold in Sidney. So it's a pretty ignorant comment to say we as a country can't wrestle.

    And as far as GSP goes, he was awarded the Male Athlete of the Year in 2008, in a country that absolutely worships hockey, so you should show the man some respect.

    I have no use for this Boxer vs MMA mentality. It's completely petty. I've been watching boxing longer than most posters have been alive and I personally enjoy watching GSP every bit as much as I enjoyed watching Duran, Hager, Leonard, and Hearns fight.
     
  14. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually, individually, BJJ is the better choice for practical application.

    However, if you're looking to "build" the ideal MMA fighter, wrestling seems to be the best "base" to have so long as they augment their knowledge of wrestling sufficiently with submission techniques and defenses.

    However, pure BJJ will beat pure wrestling 98% of the time. (If not, more)
     
  15. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry you feel that way, sir.