Mike Tyson vs Joe Frazier

tyson ko pretty early if we are talking prime 4 prime

 

Tyson, early TKO. But I wouldn't put a penny on it.

 

Tyson.

Tyson on athleticism alone would pretty much batter Frazier.
His speed, power and defense would prove too much for Frazier early enough that Joe's intaginbles won't even come into play and by the mid rounds Mike would have put up an assault that Joe doesnt recover from and is eventually stopped.

Tyson mid rounds KO.

 

almost everything frazier did, tyson did a little better......tyson ko before 6

 

If think Tyson pulls a Foreman on Frazier early. I don't think Frazier would make it out of the second round.
Tysons best work is before the 6th, Fraziers best work is after the 6th. Tyson won't have to look for him.

 

I think Chris just means he'd steam into Joe early before the 'smoke' takes effect.

 

I don't think that this would be a Foreman style blowout.

Tysons reach is actualy shorter than Fraziers so he would have to stand within convenient punching distence to land unlike Foreman. There is also a big question about how Tyson would handel Fraziers infighting technique. If Frazier goes under and gets inside on Tyson (who was esentialy a mid range fighter) can Mike adapt to it?

Frazier generaly needed a couple of rounds to warm up to his task but it is not a universal rule. He got off the starting line prety fast against Machen and nearly had him out in the first round.

It is likley that Tyson will get Frazier out of there early as some have predicted but I can see other scenario's unfolding.

1. Fraziers infighting might completely take away Tysons game in the early rounds.

2. Frazier might come out on top in an early round slugfest against the odds.

3. Frazier might simply weather the early storm and take over in mid fight due to his workrate.

 

He has two essential factors in common with Foreman:

-He is one of the fastest starters in history. Even faster than Foreman in my opinion
-He is one of the hardest punchers in history. He has more one punch knockouts than Foreman, better delivery and faster hands. Maybe a bit less power.

This would spell doom for Frazier. Frazier is one of my favorite fighters, but Tyson, Dempsey and Foreman are the worst matchups for him in my opinion.
There would be some similarity between this fight and Tyson-Marvis Frazier. Of course Joe is lightyears better than Marvis, but Tyson simply eats that slow starting come-forward style up.


Edit: Of course, if Frazier is still standing by the 6th, Tysons chances of winning are as much as Michael Jackson turning into a intellectual member of society giving lectures on "how to deal with mass media attention & child abuse".:good

 

Could go either way. Tyson, would most likely win early, but if it went over 5 rounds or so Frazier would wear Tyson down, frustrate him and knock him out late. You can't discount Fraziers' big heart, or Tyson's distinct lack of heart when things aren't going his way.

 

tyson TKO 12th round.

 

Frazier would beat him up BADLY.

KO or TKO within 5 - 9 rounds.

 

A very good fight, but Fraziers defense wasnt excellent and against punchers he struggled. Bonavena dropped him twice early and almost won, and Foreman bombed him out. Of course, we are talking about the peak Frazier here that fought Ali in FOTC, but even that Frazier would find that Tyson is just too much. Tyson would be able to land his big hooks and uppercuts and stop Frazier within 5 rounds. Frazier is also a well known slow starter, and Tyson is known as being the most explosive and fast starter in heavyweight history.

 

Frazier got hurt badly and decked by Bonavena and Foreman, but NEVER counted out.

Tyson got beat crap out of and KO'd by Buster Douglas, never got off the deck to win a fight, and showed signs of losing confidence and/or momentum whenever he was in a really tough fight.

It's odd that so many people seem to see Frazier as the "vulnerable" one in this match up. His ability to withstand the rigours of battle is far more proven that Tyson's.

Using all proven form as evidence, Frazier's got to be favoured here.