Pryor and this 135 avoidance story....

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Lets call me the devil's advocate....


    Did he really go to 140 because he was avoided by the title holders at 135?

    Who avoided him?

    Was Pryor the number 1 contender for either title?

    Regardless had he done enough to warrant a shot?

    Where is our proof?
     
  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    The titlists at lightweight when Pryor fought Cervantes...were Jim Watt and Hilmer Kenty.
    Both had only recently won the titles.

    As far as I can gather because Pryor didnt go to the Olmypics he turned pro without the hype and attention of guys like Davis Jr.
    The first name I can recognise on his record is Alfonzo Frazer..Its quite possible that Pryor just wasnt on anyones radar until this fight and it would be less then a year later he fights Cervantes.

    Im pretty sure Pryor signed with Harold Smith not long before he fought Cervantes..I know he was with him until King...So he may not have had the best management at the time he was coming up at lightweight.
     
  3. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he just got the chance of a title shot against Cervantes and took it.
     
  4. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed.

    He always had that "Everyone is ducking me" shtick, but he was only a rated contender for less than a year before he fought Cervantes, and hadn't broken into the upper echelon of the ratings until he beat contender Julio Valdez, just a few months before he fought Cervantes.

    He did call out the other contenders/titleholders at lightweight, but it's not like he was knocking at their door for very long.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    Good call guys, i think this is now laid to rest.
     
  6. Thread Stealer

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    It's strange, he was the #1 ranked contender at 135 (by the Ring) while he was champ at 140, even though he hadn't fought at 135 in a long time.
     
  7. SLAKKA

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    Aaron and MGR Larosa turned down a WBA 135 title shot vs Ernesto Espana because they didn't want to go to Venezuela.
    Sorry but its true folks!
     
  8. albinored

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    ...nobody avoided pryor...actually it was often the other way around..
     
  9. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    looks like he avoided Bumphus or maybe just paid off to step aside to make it easier for Johnny to win a title. he was a terrible fighter
     
  10. Thread Stealer

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    Whom did Pryor avoid?

    I know personal and managerial problems ****ed up fights with Duran and Mamby, and he wasn't happy with the money offered from Leonard.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Can't imagine The Hawk ducking anyone :think
     
  12. Thread Stealer

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    Well if you count your manager getting arrested and then your wife putting a bullet in you as "ducking", then Pryor ducked Mamby.
     
  13. Flea Man

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    Wasn't he just accused of ducking Bumphus? Wouldn't have lasted more than a round
     
  14. ThinBlack

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    I thought at best, Pryor was a top 5 contender at lightweight.Wasn't Ali the one who got him his title shot?
     
  15. Flea Man

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    Mamby Vs Pryor is very interesting IMO.

    Still think Pryor would be a nightmare for Bumphus!