How Do You Beat Wlad?

Maybe cause they feel Kltschko also improved his game with Manny Steward and they also want to get some experienced and confident man in their corner - seems simple to say the least but panic now? Man, I wouldn't tell that just because you change trainers before the fight. I know Povetkin has coordination with his feet, body and arms and I would doubt that he is heavier on his feet than 6'6'' tall, 240 pounder Klitschko is. But I agree that Sasha can't torpedo that body and come up with big punches at a closer range where Klitschko can't do nothing but hold if he can't get set... And that's where we disagree - Povetkin moves his head with his punches and Klitschko has a hard time timing him on the way in... The key must be to get inside and make Klitschko break the action. It would turn out something like, Povetkin 2 body shots-Klitschko 1 grab... It goes the distance and Sasha has a chance to steal the fight.

 

One last time. I don't have to watch the tapes because as I already explained to you Tucker had a padded record going into the Tyson fight and Tyson had problems with several taller fighters not just Tony Tucker who was an average fighter in a very bad Heavyweight era. Tucker is no different than Chagaev really.

 

I'm just saying my opinion,no need to **** your pants.

Yes he's improved.

Is he a immortal and unbeatable god as his fans/nuthuggers would suggest?

Hell no.

And the competition is a joke.

 

Show me where I have ever posted this about Wlad?

I have said his brother in this era is just about unbeatable.

I have also said the competition is not great but it is no worse than the era Larry Holmes or Mike Tyson fought in during the early and mid 1980's.

 

So a guy that's just as fluid as Wlad, if not more fluid and faster, and has close to the same dimensions in height and reach, is garbage?

He lost to better fighters than Wlad did, that's for DAMN sure.

 

:verysad This **** is getting out of hand now....You've got to be ****ing kidding me?? Tyson would have a field day with Wlad...Small or not...Tyson was too damn fast and placed his punches together pretty damn good...he would get on the inside rather easy with his head movement and quick feet.

Ali and Holmesatsch You seriously are underrating their attributes and overrating Wlad...Many heavyweight beg to differ from your bias opinion.

 

Show me where I said anything about you?

Are you a nuthugger?Maybe not.

Fan?Definetely yes.

And this era IMO is weaker than both of Holmes and Tyson's.

 

Prime Tyson has the best style to slip the jab and get to him inside where he's weak. Nobody has done that, nobody has the upper body movement to do it. Nobody utlilizes this style. Joe Frazier would be a good chance on sheer pressure, Wlad panics.

Other than that similarly big guys that can trade punch for punch with Klitschko without standing on the end of his jab, and ultilize their better toughness. Lewis or Holmes type fighters.

 

Take his punches for a few rounds and hope that his stamina depletes.

 

you might be right but it is very close. The similarity is stunning the only thing missing is the WBA belt being passed around like a hot potato. I have always admitted that this era is one of the weaker era's and that Wlad still has flaws. Most fighters have flaws but they have to learn to work around them which in the last 4 years Wlad has clearly done. Compare Wlad of the Sanders and Williamson fights to the Wlad we see now. There is no comparison he is a much improved fighter in many aspects.

 

A fighter who can get inside a jab....IT WOULD BE VERY TOUGH BUT A PRIME TYSON COULD DO IT..

OR JUSS BEAT HIS A$$ LIKE SANDERS DID!

 

Agreed.

Still he is beatable.

 

Wlad fought boxers with skills with very good success, he actually lost to those who have power over skills. Of course someone who has superior skills to Wlad's would beat him but there are not many of them, Lennox Lewis could be one of them. I think someone who has speed, power, stamina and chin and the right game plan. Someone who is going to put pressure on him and throw bombs, force him to get out of his game plan and throw bombs back and tire him out and take him out in the later rounds.

 

K-Man,
I wanted to add that Wlad made Sanders' job much easier by walking into most of those punches, Wlad got dropped and he wanted revenge, he wanted to get even, so he let himself go and forgot his boxing brain. Had he, in that fight, the ring experience he has today he would have boxed circles around Sanders like his brother did a year later until the ref. stopped it.
Against Brewster the first time he spent a lot of time on the offensive, allowing Brewster to slip punches and get inside, in the rematch it was evident that Wlad took a completely different approach, he sat back most of the fight and jabbed the hapless Brewster from the outside, remember there were no rights in that fight until the 6th? round, until he broke his left fist and kept jabbing from the outside until the fight was stopped.

 

This is key. I think a lot of both of the Klitschko's opponents do not have a Plan A, B, C. They have plan A and when it does not work they just take a beating.

You have to be able and willing to adapt in a fight if things are not going your way.