Call yourself world champions when you dont even want to fight outside your country

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Solid Chin, Jul 6, 2009.


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  1. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    When I watch old tapes of Muhammad Ali flying all over the world to fight guys in their own country and win or lose, he would fight them and not just stay in America like 90 % of these so called American World champions.

    I dont see the point in calling yourself a world champion when you sit at home in your own country **** scared to fly to UK or Europe or wherever they need to fly to fight others from across the pond.

    Some of these past and present so called world champions who never flew could be listed but I will leave that down to you to identify these fighters.

    I know it works both ways but what made me write this thread was after watching Carl Froch fly all the way to America to put his undefeated record on the line and even on the brink of a loss he managed to pull out a win against one of America's best

    You can only respect that and if you dont then your very hard to please.
    That is what a real champion is in my eyes.
     
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  2. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where you fight is no where near as important as who you fight. If you fight the best from around the world you are the world champion doesn't matter if you fight them all in your local high school gym
     
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  3. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    to be fair, ali HAD to fight all over the world due to political pressure
     
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  4. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    That is what always gets me Ali who is one of THE greatest of all time was not too good to fight internationally yet we have fighters like Roy Jones who think they are too good to travel to fight.

    If Ali was not "too good" to have to travel then neither is a Glass Jawed fraud like Roy Jones Jr.
     
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  6. (PimpThaSystem)

    (PimpThaSystem) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch

    Whats so honorable about being an American?
     
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  7. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    I've got no respect, absolutely 0 respect for people who think like you.

    :patsch
     
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  8. madkillaz692000

    madkillaz692000 Fuerte y Abundante Full Member

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    :wtf
     
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  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    how many times has Froch fought outside the UK?
     
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  10. KlitschkoUKR

    KlitschkoUKR Member Full Member

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    its simple if you knock out who your fighting than it doesn't matter where you are.
     
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  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    thats not true. Fighting in front of your fans with the support of the crowd can be a major boost.
     
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  12. KlitschkoUKR

    KlitschkoUKR Member Full Member

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    and not fightining in front of your fans and having them boo you gives you added motivation to prove them all wrong...like i said knock out whoever is in front of you and it doesn't matter where you are because than you don't have to rely on the judges.
     
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  13. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A true professional should be able to look past the crowd. Not to mention that hometown crowds can also be a distraction and a disadvantage just look at Cotto vs Corley. Cotto almost lost that fight because he let the crowed get in his head.
     
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  14. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you're missing the point: fighters fight where the money is. I have no qualms or bitterness in me when I say America, and in particular Las Vegas, amounts to the boxing capital of the world.
     
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  15. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Most fighters fight where the money is. For popular Europeans its in big Football stadiums, for popular Americans its in Vegas casinos.
     
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