How reliable is compubox?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by cilldara11, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. cilldara11

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    My understanding is that it's a manual system, with individuals working for compubox determining which punches land and which punches miss, further categorized into jab and power shots. The punch stat is used as a major reference point when looking back at a fight, how good a job do you think the punch counters behind the scenes do?
     
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    koki_kameda Koki Kameda Full Member

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    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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  4. Jorodz

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    complete and utter ****

    looking at mayweather-DLH as an example you can see the system is HORRIBLY flawed and biased. in that case, genaro hernandez who i normally respect, is one of the operators. he fought both fighters and had a pretty obvious distain for Oscar and picked mayweather to win. the punch stats for that fight were ridiculous. *NOTE: mayweather won, not disputing this. if someone who is supposed to objectively judge a fight in some way makes a public prediction, he loses validity.

    bottom line, compubox is as accurate as any two of us sitting in our living rooms
     
  5. cilldara11

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    This is basically what I've begun to think. I can't see how a person can accurately distinguish between clean head and body punches and punches landing on shoulders,arms etc - while also recording whether it was a jab or not. I just found it interesting since compubox is taken as gospel by many in the boxing world!
     
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    welcome to east side!:thumbsup
     
  7. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    He'll never fit in... too much common sense.

    JK, keep it up guy.
     
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    Sometimes it works and sometimes it don't. The only real stat you can almost trust is the total punches thrown. That one keeps the decision making down to a minimum and they don't have to see as much. So it may be safe to say punch stats can tell you who was the busier fighter.
     
  9. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    It's as accurate as any other system in my view.

    The problem is most people can't score round by round, they score the entire fight which is why you get so many dickheads claiming robbery in cases where one guy landed clean, but not many and the other guy landed a tonne of glancing blows (i.e Hopkins vs Calzaghe)
     
  10. CHEF

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    EDIT:**** I thought you were talking about guys missing or seeing punches that arent or are there
     
  11. boricua100%

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    Me personally dont think it is reliable
     
  12. Jorodz

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    great point pugilistic! for instance, if fighter a lands 3 decent shots in the first ten rounds but 200 punches in the last two rounds and fighter b, lands 10 or 12 good shots a round for the first ten but gets DOMINATED in the last two fighter a still loses a landslide decision. punch stats will show fighter a landing more but it doesn't matter
     
  13. cilldara11

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    :lol: Thanks.

    My first thread ever so sorry if it stinks of newb.

    I'll look to manny to save it. :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV_C9Uh54tg
     
  14. CHEF

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    wow.. I had a flash back to high school with the teacher asking how long it takes a train to travel from A to B:yep
     
  15. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    It's the reason why high stamina fighters with a good chin are so hard to beat, because they'll keep going round after round after round and make it impossible for the other guy to take breaks.

    It's why I'm an advocate of open scoring, too... I'd have every round shown on TV (not announced in crowd, etc) in terms of what it was scored so you can see what rounds are awarded to fighters as the fight goes.

    If boxing wants to clean itself up and ensure corruption is removed, open scoring is it's only option.