Who had the more impressive wins Calzaghe or Hatton?

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  1. 'Ben'

    'Ben' Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thread has probably been done before but a recent discussion has got me curious to see what people generally think about it?
     
  2. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Probably Calzaghe but the difference between the way the 2 are treated is beyond comparison. Calzaghe is way overated and since his loss to Pacquiao Hatton is being written off as a chump which is very unfair
     
  3. williams7383

    williams7383 TKO 6 Klit Lickers Full Member

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    Calzaghe beat Lacy and Kessler at their best, who were both legitimate world champions. Hatton beat good fighters on their way down, and was lucky against Collazo IMO
     
  4. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Calzaghe.

    He got the decision against a great fighter in Hopkins.

    Hatton got brutally KTFO by the two great fighters he fought.

    Beneath that, Kessler & Lacy are better than Castillo & Malignaggi.
     
  5. Axl_Nose

    Axl_Nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both resumes are absolutely shocking for guys who are held up as world class fighters ..

    Hatton has Tzsyu, Mayweather and Pac. Losing 2 out of 3 .... Vince phillips, Oliveira, Pendleton, Tackie and Castillo were just names, shadows of previously good fighters ..

    As for Calzaghe, he operated in the worst division in boxing. 168 is a stepping stone division, anyone who stays there is avoiding the risks up at 175 .... Before Lacy he fought absolutely nobodies. Only Joe Calzaghe could claim that Tocker Pudwell and Will 'Kidfire' Mcintyre are credible opponents .. He must get credit for his victories over Lacy and Kessler although these 2 are hardly ATG's. Finally Joe got brave and stepped up to 175 to face an old Hopkins and a finished Jones.

    Both resumes are very disappointing for guys at the top of they're respective divisions but thats because the Brit fight fans keep buying ridiculous PPV offerings from Warren. If nobody bought these fights or shelled out for tickets to these ridiculous mismatches then Warren would have to have a rethink and throw his fighters in with more competitive fighters. Calzaghe v Manfredo was unforgiveable !!
    Calzaghe has the better wins, but Hatton has fought the better fighters. Nobody on Joe's resume compares to Mayweather and Pacquiao.
    So its 50 - 50 for me .. Both resumes are **** .. Nigel Benn's resume is far better than these 2 guys ..
     
  6. Dan684

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    Yeah not disputing that but since he's been beat all of his wins have just been written off, he had some very good wins, the Malignaggi one was a good win, as was the Urango one. Tsyzu was predicted as the favourite and he took on the best in the world in their absolute prime twice (Admittedly coming short twice).

    Calzaghe on the other hand had good wins in Kessler and Lacy neither of which will be remembered as greats and the two greats he fought would have beaten them in their primes and one nearly did at the ripe old age of 43.

    Both are similiar in careers IMO. Hatton, now underated and Calzaghe overated. if Calzaghe had fought Hopkins and Jones 5-8 years ago he would have had a 2 next to his 44 wins along with Hattons 2
     
  7. GazOC

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    That reasoning sidesteps Hatton beating Zoo though (like a guy above says Hatton was lucky to beat Collazo but makes no mention of Calzaghe - Reid) ....but I agree, Calzaghe has the better record.
     
  8. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Is there anyway for me to gracefully admit that I totally forgot about Hatton beating Tszyu? :lol:
     
  9. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Can't agree with that for either fighter. Both have holes and missed opportunities in their records but to say they are "shocking" is way off the mark.
     
  10. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Start swearing and say the win doesn't count because Dave Paris is a ****??;)
     
  11. djoc175

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  12. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  13. Dan684

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    Axl, you totally missed the fact that Hatton beat Urango, Collazo and Malignaggi ???? Admittedly got a bit fortunate with the Collazo decision but still you just missed 3 very good wins out of your reasoning ?

    Whats worse.....

    Beating Tsyzu, Over the hill Castillo, and losing to the 2 greatest fighters of the past decade or....

    Beating a green Lacy, Kessler, 43 yr old Hopkins and decrepid Jones who could walk and punch after round 2 ?

    Neither in my opinion. Both got good resumes not great.
     
  14. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    TBH I've always thought Calzaghe doesn't get enough credit for the likes of Woodhall, Reid, Brewer, Mitchell. I know a couple were coming off loses and were not in their prime but they are decent, solid defences for champion to make, what lets Calzaghe down is that too many Ashira, Thornberry, Pudwell types in with them. I think with just 1 or 2 real quality names in JCs record around that time (pre Lacy) would look a hell of a lot better
     
  15. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Gaz makes a good point there. Some solid names surrounded by dross.
    Far from adding anything to Calzaghe's record, the Rick Thornberry's of this world actually detract from the overall quality. Because all the defences you could describe as 'credible', are punctuated by nonsense fights against lowly opposition.