Is Calzaghe vs Kessler a 'superfight'?

I see what you mean Kos but at they arn't american

No but really on paper it has the ingredients of a super fight but imo Super fights have to bring in the average joe. I could ask all my mates and they wouldn't know who joe was never mind kessler.

If i say Sugar Ray Leonard, Hagler, Duran or DLH they all know who I'm on about

 

As LHL, says it was a good fight but some way short of a "Superfight".

 

What do you consider to be the ingredients of a superfight...that is the question.

I don't think either were worldwide stars. Calzaghe only just announced himself to Americans when he beat Lacy, I don't think he was a marquee fighter at that point only a couple fights later. Kessler definitely wasn't, largely going unknown outside European boxing circles. This was confirmed when it did poor numbers on US TV.

I don't think either would be considered great fighters at that point, even though they were undefeated and that does add a certain something. Calzaghe was top 10, Kessler top 20 in the world.

It was a big fight at the time, in the proper context. But it won't stand the test of time to be a superfight. Even if Kessler does something special from now, at the actual time of the fight it didn't have the build up, appeal, money, legacy at stake.

 

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It's one of them fights that means a lot to a boxing fan but nothing to a casual watcher.

 

:rofl The best since Gunn Vs Maccarinelli

 

And in some parts of Copenhagen.

 

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I totally disagree with you .... Ive never known a 'Superfight' with as bad resume's as Kessler and Calzaghe ..
When this fight took place, Kessler had beaten an old Markus Beyer and Andrade.
Calzaghe had beaten an old Eubank and Lacy ..
That does not constitute a 'Superfight'. Mainly because a Superfight is by its description a fight between 2 'Super' fighters .. Kessler had proved nothing and Calzaghe had beaten Lacy, a guy that hadnt beaten anybody of any note.
This was a big, interesting fight in a division that nobody respects and a division that nobody in the boxing fraternity takes any interest in. Super Middle is akin to Cruiser, its a division devoid of real talent because real talent at 168 either boil down to 160 (in the past, Monzon) or go up and hit the marquee division of 175. Anybody who stays at 168 is waiting for a perfect opportunity to go to 175, because 168 isnt a marquee division that plays well in America, it has zero historical lineage ..
Kessler v Calzaghe is a 'Super Fight' at 168 but its certainly not a 'Super Fight' in the boxing world, its the equivalent of Tua v Lewis at Heavy in '00 or Junior Jones v Morales in '98 .... Its an interesting fight but in no way a 'Super Fight' .... Calzaghe v Hopkins was far bigger than Calzaghe v Kessler ..

 

I just want to pick up on the 'Monzon' comment i made in the previous post .... I know full well that Monzon wasnt a 168 fighter but he would have been if he had the option, theres no question of that considering his size .. I just wanted to clear that up before some 'picky' poster makes a big deal of the fact that i suggested that Monzon fought at 168 .... You know what some guys are like on here

 

Why would i do that Kos, i respect and enjoy reading your opinions. Im not closed minded like TFFP .. I take on board everyones opinion, only when ive drank too much do i take things a little far ..
Hey i hope i havent offended you in the past, i think your a great poster on here. Sorry if i've been out of order in the past. TFFP drives me nuts with his Kessler worship but i enjoy reading his posts too considering he thinks Harry Greb and Ezzard Charles are 2 of the greatest fighters of all time, something i agree with .. I think Kessler has proved nothing though which is were we disagree ..... But you are a great poster Kos, no question about that ..

 

I think you'll have a hard time locating my Kessler 'worship', but do have a go