Roy Jones vs. a prime Carlos Monzon at MW

Stonehands wins this argument. No one matches Monzon's level of experience. 7 straight years of championship experience against the best Europe has to offer, the best Mexico has to offer, the best Italy has to offer, the best out of Columbia, not to mention the hotbed of fighters from Argentina.

Leonard? He's fortunate to even be mentioned in the same breath as Jones or Monzon

 

1. You've made zero contribution to a worthwhile argument other than saying 'Monzon was stronger and fought 15rounders'

2. So stamina plays no part in 15 rounders? As Frazier said when asked what he'd do if he didn't

3. The only reason they were none threats was because Jones was operating on a superior plane. Toney and Hopkins are still better wins than anything on Monzons resume. And Hill and McCallum are as good as old midgets like Griffith and Napoles

4. He'd get hit as much as he did against more skilled fighters like Toney and Hopkins, ie not much

 

You may be right McGrain, Monzon may have taken Jones out of there in half the rounds that I said he would.

 

Willie Pep supposedly won a round without throwing a punch, Monzon will go 1 better and KO Jones without landing a punch

 

No, I was making it clear that Tarver and Johnson both found Jone's chin eventually, and I wasn't referring to the other Johnson....Reggie. The 2 ko's were scored when Jones was a lightheavy, I realize, and not at middleweight, and up until then no one was able to find Jone's chin..none of the middles, supermiddles, or any lightheavies...I'm convinced that Monzon would have found that chin...tortoise and hare my ass...and we know what happened whenever Jone's chin was found...the glass shatters.

 

That was a pretty much shot Jones, Roy took a big flush painful right from Ruiz and Ruiz was 230lbs and put Holyfield down with a right. He also took shots from Hopkins and Griffin.

Having said that Roy's defensive ability will be as much as a problem for Monzon as anyone else

 

I think this one will very much resemble Taylor-Chavez. Jones will throw and land flashy looking combinations, while Monzon will land bone crushing but soft looking shots. The Argentinian has a cast iron jaw and very subtle defence. I can see Jones slowing down around the 8th while Monzon connects more and more often, ending matters with a right hand not dissimilar to the one he fell Benvenuti like a tree with, in their epic first bout.


Incidentally, i think very highly of Roy Jones, and Monzon is the only middleweight who i'd pick over him. A lot of people under-rate Monzon because of his, at first sight, going-through-the-motions style. But whenever he stepped up, he proved that under the seemingly rusted hood, he had a well-oiled, big V-12 engine that never stopped running until victory was his.

 

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Yes i do. I think Jones would be too good all-round for Hagler. I realize that during his prime, he was a lot more skilled than what we saw in his biggest, last fights, but still. Plus, he had a tendency to choose stupid strategies in big fights. I'm referring to the Leonard and Duran bouts. Against Hearns there wasn't much to choose; if Jones slugs with him, he'll probably end up the same way. Over 15 rounds, Hagler would have a better chance, but unlike Monzon i wouldn't favor him. I'll say more later if you want, a Louis Theroux documentary is starting at the moment. Laters!

 

nvm

 

Alot of huffing and puffing on this thread...and it is an intrigiung match-up. Both sides certainly have their rabid contingents. There won't be a proven answer, but why not give a objective account of how their styles, strengths, weaknesses, and tendencies might play out.
Everyone has an opinion...Let's see some objective (key word there) analysis by both sides. I'd like to see what each side has got to offer.

 

Prime Roy Jones beats him clean ... Monzon too slow to catch him .. Carlos never fought anything like that Roy. Jones might even drop him a few times ... The Tarver and Johnson losses have greatly diminished Roy's stock and many forget what an exceptional fighter he was in his prime .. at 160 he was near unbeatable ... Hagler would lose as well .. no disrespect for Marvin or Carlos , both of whom were exceptional fighters that I love but styles make fights and both these guys would be decisioned... too much speed and power ... it's not like they could simply run Jones down. At 160 he likely hit harder than either fighter as well ..