A prime Pernell Whittaker.

Another thing about Pernell - looking back I find it incredible how accomplished he was when he first stepped into a pro ring. I know all about his amateur career but his transition to the paid ranks was seamless - I honestly think if he'd been thrown into an ABC Title fight for his debut, there's a very good chance he could have won it.

It's hard to think of many fighters who were so good so quickly. Tszyu is the only other guy who springs to mind recently.

 

If he had the power and the ko delivery system of say..Wilfredo Gomez added to his repetoire...he'd have to be outlawed for being too damned good, and for the safety and welfare of his opponents.

 

yeh, but Robinson did have a good jab aswell but i think he thought past his own jab looking to set up combinations, intead of thinking about his jab.

As for infighting definitly Pea is one of the best at it. On the inside he was very very hard to hit and he kept it moving inside which must have really tired out the other guy constantly having to re set yourself up inside.

i think as before he thinks past his jab

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I think pernell has the better combination punching. Although i think Leonards are more effective.

Pernell throws brilliant combinations. His double jab back hand is the best i have seen. Its so quick. Pernell was really accurate and quick with his combinations and his distrubution of punches was excellant he would target the head and body in perfect ratios.

Ray Leonard hunted the head more but did go to the body also. His combinations seemed to have more meat behind them whereas Pernells were quicker and more of a shock stunner but Rays was more of a bazooka.

I have never seen Pernell getting beat on the inside, NEVER. As for body shots i cant think of any times

yup almost. Every fighter mentioned in this thread is almost perfect

Ray Robinon - Almost perfect (IMO the closest we have)

Ray Leonard - almost perfect

Pernell Whittaker - almost perfect.

And frankly im glad we dont have a perfect fighter.

 

Alright Teeto.

Pea was one of the most well rounded technicians of all time, IMO. In that I mean that he was so well versed in so many different areas, against so many different styles, and he did it all while lacking in true power. To be that effective inside, outside, at mid-range, in the clinch; against a taller boxer-puncher, a swarming pressure fighter, an educated body puncher; pressing the fight, fighting off the backfoot, boxing in center ring, etc. It didn't matter, he got the job done with pure skillz.

His tools are some of the most impressive you'll see, from pretty much anywhere in the ring. On the inside, he obviously had an excellent defensive radar. Not just with slipping punches, but with blocking, parrying, and countering as well. Very accurate, particularly to the body, as he was extremely efficient inside. He was excellent at mixing offense and defense, again from any range.

Unlike many other talented fighters, he had the mentality to maintain his brilliance throughout his prime, and put all of his tools together on multiple occasions, against the best. That is what seperates him and puts him into the class of the upper echelon greats. Talent, and the mentality needed to put it all together are the two most important traits an ATG can posess, and Pea had them both in spades.

I rate him higher on ability than anything, he was truly one of the greatest ever in that regard. When you throw in his cockiness, demeanor, ring antics, and general personality, you just have the total package for me. A bad, bad man who knew he was bad.

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Pea that is the best description of Whittaker i have ever read, i have saved it

 

Thanks man at least you read the post all the way through.


By the way to the guy that said i have Tszyu in the best fighters all time. He is my personal favorite as for my top 100 all time i had Tszyu at 93 and Whitaker at 12.

I wasnt in here being a Sweet Pea hater i was just saying how he got no love by the fanes of his era and wasnt even known by your basic boxing fan on the street.
Its a shame but although he was talented as F&<k like i also said in my post he had no fan base.
Why because of his style.

Im sorry to teeto but if it came down to it and you could go back in time and watch a fight would it be Whitaker vs Chavez

Or would it be Hagler vs Hearns. Thats what i meant. Go to the general forum ask your basic newbie if they have seen many Sweet Pea fights and i bet they havnt.

To other Sweet Pea and classic forum posters that think they are the knowledge kings of the sport i leave you with this.

We in here are all arm chair experts. no more no less. We have oppinions some agree most dissagree.
But if you feel i am not worthy to my oppinion i suggest you put your money were your mouths are and enter the tipping comps and see how you go.

Addie thanks for the nice words. At least someone read my post with some thought.

 

He was a brilliant defensive fighter,but he missed the era where he really would have been tested from 135 to 147 and their are more than a few matchups where he would have had some trouble.But nevertheless you can beat who's in front of you,he was a great fighter.

 

right up there, and i think his lack of power doesn't diminish him, no one is perfect. great fighters make up for their shortcomings by being fantastic in other areas, i.e arguello's lack of footspeed, monzon lacked serious power...they account for this by being consistent in other areas. pea is right up there imo......one guy i can think of with no weakness in his allround game is hagler.....though ray robinson would have to be right up there too.

 

Roy Jones was the best of his era

 

lucky they had different era's then. pea's prime was before roy's. include the part where their legacy's overlapped pea has the better resume and skillset imo. given just how talented roy jones was that says a huge amount for how much i rate pea.

 

the undefeated chavez?prime roger mayweather?mcgirt?azumah nelson?others too. and not just beat but outclass, usually beating thefighter at their own game?atsch