~ SUPER SIX WORLD BOXING CLASSIC - R1 is over as Ward dominates Kessler ~

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  1. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I'll be rooting for Taylor. >_>
     
  2. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Let's see now, I've heard over and over that Pavlik/Abraham would make more money and be bigger in Germany than in the USA. When Kalle Sauerland was asked about Germany he said, "Had we known he [Kelly Pavlik] was interested in fighting in Germany, we would have made him an offer." Sauerland did not say, 'we offered Pavlik X amount to fight in Germany.' He said, "Had we known .... we would have." In other worlds Sauerland NEVER offered a fight in AA's biggest most lucrative market. They never offered because Sauerland Entertainment will NEVER let Kelly Pavlik any where near Arthur "the can killer" Abraham.
     
  3. Hermit

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    In the meantime he came up with a scheme that guaranteed AA 3 fights at SMW. Cashing him out?
     
  4. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Damn I, do you guy UNDERSTAND or actaully read posts??? It seems like you get to a point in a post then think you understand what someone is saying without reading??? Im not saying that one is better then the other, what Im saying is that in different stages of thier careers neither resume is that stong. Wards resume should be as good as Kesslers at this point, but it should/could be stronger. Likewise with Kessler, his should/could be stonger for where he is at in his career.

    My point is saying that Ward hasnt fought anyone is pretty stupid seeing that he only has 19 fights and has only had 3 12 round fights. While trying to make the claim that Kessler has a great resume is equally as stupid, because EVERYONE including his sack swingers know damn well that his resume is pretty weak.
     
  5. LockDog387

    LockDog387 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not a fan of either Kessler or Ward, but Kessler is more proven than Ward. He beat Andrade, Markus Beyer, Anthony Mudine, he fought Calzaghe, and has won a belt and is considered one of the top 3 SMW's. What's an impressive win in Ward's resume other than Miranda? Nobody. So obviously Kessler's resume>>>>Wad's resume. I think Ward is a terrific talent with good skills. I just don't think Ward is as good as some people think he is. He has shown plenty of vulnerabilities. Of course Ward is still capable of winning this fight, but this is a big step up for Ward, and we'll see what he's made of.
     
  6. JohnAkiBoa

    JohnAkiBoa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why is it ugliest?:huh
    for me damn, kessler vs ward i like both, i have been watching kessler far longer so i go with him but damn, sucks two my favourite fighters going at it. bad situtiation for me..

    I think AA will Ko JT in the end after gettting out boxed every single round, because JT just fades away like he has done lately:-(

    Dirrel is going to win on points close but clearly against Froch.
     
  7. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Once again im not comparing the two resumes. Im simply stating that Kesslers resume isnt great, so his fans shouldnt be bashing a fighter who is at a different stage in his career for not having a great resume...Its really not that hard to understand, maybe im not getting my point across well.
     
  8. No10Point

    No10Point Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What is really good about this is that it isn't single elimination.
    Which will set up future fights after the tourney.

    Froch vs Dirrell w=Froch
    Abraham vs Taylor w=Abraham
    Kessler vs Ward w=Kessler
    Abraham vs Dirrell w=Abraham
    Froch vs Kessler w=Kessler
    Ward vs Taylor w=? if he doesn't get KO'd by Abraham I go with Taylor
    Froch vs Abraham w=? I go with Abraham
    Ward vs Dirrel w=? If Dirrell survives or even hurts Froch I go with him
    Kessler vs Taylor w=Kessler

    To be honest there is allot of possibilities here:

    Forch Vs Dirrel. I agree that
    Dirrel and Ward are both over their heads. Props to both men and their team for stepping up. So it comes to a question of IF Dirrell has enough power to keep Froch from just walking him down. I really dont think he does. IF Dirrell wins. Even by SD. Then
    it changes the land scape. It will make Froch Vs Kessler even more intense.

    Abraham vs Taylor:
    Abraham is a bit under rated here. He has power in both hands and is explosive. He also
    knows how to fight through adversity more than any of the other fighters. We know Talyor has power for about 3 or 4 rounds. Enough to actually KO Abraham? Probably not but if he can hurt him and then box with a consistent jab and not have a lazy low left hand it is possible he could win.

    Kessler Vs Ward
    Most people on this board will be hoping Ward pulls off the upset. I do not think this will happen. His fight against Miranda showed me he is not with the top guys. He should have stopped Miranda. It was there for the taking. I go back to Ward and Dirrell not being seasoned enough for this yet. IF Kessler KO's Ward I will pick him to be overall winner. If he wins on points then?

    Abraham vs Dirrell
    Even if Dirrell beats Froch, he only has a chance IF Abraham looses to Taylor.

    Froch vs Kessler
    This is THE MEGA fight. Since Abraham is coming up. These are the 2 men, whom on paper, who will be THE fight everyone will talk about. Even before the tourney starts.
    IF Froch doesn't win by KO he will loose this fight. If Kessler KO's Ward, then he will Definitely KO Froch (who is slower and less technical) But if both men win on points in their first fights then it is a ? though I lean toward Kessler by points.

    Ward vs Taylor
    Just what I wrote up top. IF Taylor doesn't get KO'd in his first fight then I go with Taylor. He hits harder than Miranda. If Miranda can make contact every now and then. Then Taylor should more.

    Froch vs Abraham
    I go with Abraham. Froch's style is right for Abraham. If Taylor knocked Froch down. Abraham can KO him. Also Abraham can do it in every round. Not sure how Froch can over come Abrahams defense.

    Ward vs Dirrel
    If Taylor wasn't in this mix then THIS should be the first fight of the tourney. No matter what happens before this. I am sure this will be a sleeper fight. Just because they are at the same level etc. It will push them to prove themselves. Who wins depends on mental toughness. Winner of this will be the 4th man in the finals.

    Kessler vs Taylor
    Unless Taylor has won both of his previous fights. One by KO, then Kessler by KO
    (less Kessler himself has lost by KO) then maybe a chance for Taylor but probably Kessler by SD.


    Tourney comes down to

    Kessler Vs Abraham
    Froch Vs Plus winner of Ward/Dirrell


    This is all based off of paper
    and previous performances. All in all it is boxing. Anything can happen.

    Thank You to SHOWTIME and everyone involved!
     
  9. LockDog387

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    You are comparing the two resumes, and no Kessler doesn't have a great resume, but he's more proven that Ward so he should be the obvious favorite. And no one isn't bashing Ward.
     
  10. thesandman51

    thesandman51 teh secks Full Member

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    abraham ko/tko tayloer

    froch sd dirrell

    kesller ud ward
     
  11. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmm show me were I compared the two's resume??? Here is the post that you quoted
     
  12. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I say yes, Sauerland is cashing in the chips now. He has Kessler. He no longer needs Abraham, and must realize how limited he is.
     
  13. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AA is a limited fighter with above average power. I just cant get it out of my mind that Mirada was actaully outboxing him before getting caught and knocked out..I truth believe that AA will do the worst of any fighter in the thing if it gets off the ground. He will merely have a powers chance in any matchup.
     
  14. tonsetzer

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    AA, Dirrel, Kessler

    It is beyond me how anyone can pick Taylor with confidence. His stamina was horrible vs Froch. If he cant fight for 12 rounds he is toast vs AA.
     
  15. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These match ups are great! I think Ward could cause serious problems for Kessler. Taylor might pull it out of the bag vs Abraham...and froch should win. The first two i wouldnt know what to vote!