Pernell Whittaker - How do you beat him.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by GPater11093, Jul 11, 2009.


  1. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

    61,460
    38
    Jan 7, 2005
    TBH I was half thinking of AA at 130 and giving up the weight to keep the speed.....
     
  2. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,935
    92
    Aug 21, 2008
    I can see Duran possibly overtaking Whitaker with his power, speed, and swarming attack, but the thing about Duran is that we saw against Leonard and in other fights that he doesn't respond well to being frustrated and discouraged - and Whitaker is about as frustrating/discouraging a fighter as you can fight. Also, if they fight at 135, Whitaker could punch pretty good at the weight, and Duran was dropped a couple times by "sneak" punches at the weight, so that increases the likelihood that Whitaker could get Duran's respect and discourage him.
     
  3. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

    27,199
    93
    Dec 26, 2007
    Tito is tailor-made for Pea.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

    27,199
    93
    Dec 26, 2007
    Both Arguello and Williams get handily outboxed as well. Not good style matchups.
     
  5. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

    28,075
    54
    Oct 15, 2007
    Clearly, no answer for the mobility/ability in my book.
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

    15,221
    173
    Jul 23, 2004
    Don't worry about Whitaker's lack of power against Duran. He doesn't need it. His style and overall skill level would neutralize Duran. IMO, Duran isn't going to constantly steam forward until he catches Whitaker just because he has a fighter lacking power in front of him. It doesn't work like that. I would bet my life savings that Duran's punch out-put would be low due to sharing a ring with Whitaker. Duran would be made to think like never before.
     
  7. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,304
    5
    Dec 7, 2007
    To be honest i doubt duran would be discouraged by a flash knockdown, look at him in the 2nd round against hearns after taking a frightful beating in the 1st he just thows himself forward for more in the 2nd. A little flash knockdown isn't going to stop him, also he would need to be careful coming in on whitaker at any point in the fight, if he continually rushes in he'll get countered to ****, but he has the ability to mix up the way he looks to get inside, whether that be by using his feints and footwork or by using the bullish fast moving swarming style, he would need to be versatile in his ways of cutting the distance to get inside but he has the ability to do so IMO.

    The frustaton side he showed agains leonard in no mas of course comes into play here, duran could be pissed of if you didn't ingage him, however duran wasn't at his best at leonard 2, duran at his absolute best i envisage cutting the distance down far more effectively, i also don't see pea being as ultra defensive as leonard was in that fight and that will give duran the chance to get inside more often than he did against leonard.
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

    38,034
    91
    Nov 10, 2008
    I would pick Duran too, i think to stop Duran coming inside you need a good left hook as it is the only punch i can see he is open too as he attacks, but Whittaker could pivot away and land a straight left instead but for reasons outlined above i might pick Duran

    he did didnt he

    I did think of him aswell i had four names i though of Benny leonard, Ike Williams, Alexis Arguello and Duran - Maybe Ortiz

    :good

    Again one guy i think might be able too

    could you explain why, i can see why for Arguello though.
     
  9. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

    28,075
    54
    Oct 15, 2007
    GP, i can say why i would favour Whitaker over Williams. I just think he could drag him into a chessmatch and be the better man in it. Williams stood at range probing with a jab a lot, and if he caught you with a hard shot he could finish you like you were a piece of ****. So it's always possible because his hands are very fast, but i think Whittkaer's skillset at range could get him a decision there personally.
     
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

    38,034
    91
    Nov 10, 2008
    Williams was one rough customer and might be able to catch Whittaker coming into his range with a good shot

    What about Sandy Saddler hes pretty similar to Ike
     
  11. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,611
    33
    Jan 4, 2009
    Tried & Tested:yep Never fails:good Contact Top Rank & Don King Promotions 4 updates on future results:smoke
     
  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

    15,221
    173
    Jul 23, 2004
    You been drinking the Panamanian jungle juice?
     
  13. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,611
    33
    Jan 4, 2009
    How'd you Know:huh

    I sold one ov those Duran/Buchanan press kits on ebay 4 £200 about 6 months ago, Quaility peace ov history, all hand typed:good
     
  14. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

    15,221
    173
    Jul 23, 2004
    Never seen one before. Cheers anyway.
     
  15. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

    6,030
    12
    May 3, 2008
    Mayweather Jr????:think