Should there be an end to catch weights regarding PACMAN??

So you dont want him to fight Floyd?

:nut

 

of course i do, i was just carried away..

 

What? Let Mayweather fight Vlad, since weight means nothing.

 

name all the fights currently mentioned by team pacquaio that are NOT proposed at a catchweight.....

*crickets chirping*

 

Then how can we end something that has not even happened as you said proposed?:think

 

think pac should fight at 137.75 against amelda marcos

 

look, its like this. I have no problem with the catchweight, as long as the WW title isnt on the line. The WW division is from 141-147, and no matter how many ppv's pac sells he should not be able to essentially change the WW division to 141-145 or whatever. I mean, come on.

Pac is basically saying "I want to win the WW title, and call myself a 7 division champion, but those pesky ww's are just too big for me, so how about we change the division limit to 145 just for me, so i can be 7 division champ!

Its bull****.

when Roy went up to HW and fought Ruiz for the HW title, I dont recall HIM putting a weight limit on Ruiz.....

As far as I know last night Darchinyan didnt make Agbeko come in under 118.....

Floyd fought Oscar at 154 for the JM title. He didnt make Oscar come in at 150....

There are thousands of examples of fighters wanting to challenge for a title in a higher weight division without bull**** weight limitations. There are only a few examples of fighters pulling this weight crap...........

 

pac also went to 140 for hatton, 126 for barrera and 130 for morales. it is just now that pac is demanding that a guy meet him halfway just because this time pac is the draw. if cotto wants to put his belt on the line to lift his bargaining power, then so be it.

 

something that is wrong (catchweights in title fights) should not be excused or overlooked just because someone "is the draw".

 

I cant argue with you more if that is your opinion. At the end of the day, the matter of putting the title on the line resides on agreement between their promotional ties which happens to be Top Rank all along.

You said 141-147 is the WW division. So i guess if they put the title on the line validates the above.

Floyd has no choice. He has to agree on Oscars term for money. And Floyd has been campaigning at WW at the time. Compare to Pac, Oscar knows it is virtually impossible that Pac comes to 154 to fight him. Pacquiao virtually came from 130 and stops at 135 against DDiaz. Talk about four(4!) division leap if He fights Oscar at 154. He wants Pac name because of money thus the fight at 147. Its all business.

Pac if he has his choice will rather got straight to Mayweather. Do you think he cares for legacy? I guess he knows it is secured. If one thing, becoming a 7 division champ is only secondary to Him. If it comes, so be it. He is down to few big fights then retire. Its cashing time. He has done his homework.

I couldnt care for Darchinyan and RRJ, thats their call. But if you are trying to insinuate that there is a bit of cowardness if Pac pushes for a catchweight against the top Welterweights, that would be a strong argument.

Catchweight has been in boxing since time immemorial.
It is happening now.
It will continue to happen.

It will create more megafights in the future.

We cant argue forever about catchweight. Lets just enjoy the ride.

 

what i mean is this, pac is the draw this time and cotto would most probably agree to a catchweight title fight just to get a shot at pacman and the biggest purse of his career. not actually bad for just a couple of pounds and his wbo belt eh?

now cotto may or may not agree and he could fight his mandatory for lesser bucks. it's actually team cotto's choice.

 

To be honest, Pac should just fight Cotto at 147. Period.

If Pac has difficulty climbing to 147 pounds, then no problem, he could weigh as low as 143 or 145, but he should at least allow Cotto to weigh in at that max weight, because it is for the WW championship belt.

Why he would want him to fight at 145? If he really wants him and his belt, then go up at 147. Why would meet at a catch weight? It will hurt his legacy eventually. There will be clouds of questions which would hang over it.

 

Hopefully we dont have to argue about it forever. I personally wrote to the ABC, as well as the IBF and the WBO, asking them to consider implementing a rule that would prohibit catchweights in title fights. Hopefully they will at least consider it.

If not, then I most likely will do other things to show how ridiculous this catchweight bull**** is. Assuming Nate beats Bradley, he would have a mando due with Lamont Peterson. During negotiations, my position will be that Peterson agrees to 138, or it goes to purse bid. Then assuming Nate wins, we agreed to freely negotiate a Bradley rematch after that. My stipulation will be that Bradley makes 138 or there is no rematch. Another 140 champ wants to unify? Fine, but its at 138 or it aint happening. And I'll keep doing it until the powers that be put a stop to it once and for all.....

Pac is full of **** here. You want to fight for the welterweight title? Then you better be willing to actually fight a welterweight.

 

The problem is Pac is the bigger draw and if Cotto wants this fight he has to agree w/ Pac's condition. **** his belt. We need a competitive fight, not a fight skewed to one fighter. Simple. If Cotto can't agree, no fight.

 

You can do that. But who cares about Nate? He can't attract files anyway. My point is : You have to give it to Pac who has earned the distinction of being the biggest draw in boxing currently. He has overstretched himself too much already at 140 and his camp has admitted they can only go up to 140. If Cotto cannot agree to go up at l43, then there is no fight. No problem w/ Pac, he can always find another opponent. There is Marquez or even Shane who is willing.