Duran vs Leonard 1

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  1. DINAMITA

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    So many things wrong with this post. Just awful.
     
    DINAMITA, Jul 11, 2009
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  2. Robbi

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    Another donkey aint he. :lol:
     
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  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Just watched Duran vs Leonard 1 again and i have another theory.

    In the first round Duran and leonard come out on a range finding mission and they spar in the middle of the ring. Midway through the round Duran lands a right hand on Leonard then attacks for the rest of the round. In the second Duran rocks Leonard with a right hand-left hook combinations then attacks Leonard unrelentingly.

    From then on Leonard looked surprised and a bit like a rabbit caught in the headlights. I think Duran spooked Leonard early on and indoing so made Leonard stand in front of him and when Leonard did try to move Duran was there all over him and Leonard was spooked. Whilst Leonard was spooked Duran worked the body constantly really banging it over and over like the Keith Moon bangs a drum.

    By the time Leonard recovered from his stupor of shock Durans body shots had slowed down his legs and Leonard found it quite difficult to move with his feet and then tried to fight Duran but did try to move but didnt have the strength in his legs to do it effectivly.

    I would just like to note than this fight is why i love Duran. Early in Durans career he was that raging bull type style a true swarmer all over his opponents. As he got older he boxed better was alot more crafty used brilliant feints and out side skills to get inside and in this fight Duran combined them both.

    Also i scored this fight

    Duran: 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13 (12)
    Leonard: 7,14,15 (3)
    Total: 147-138 Duran

    But note i score points on defence and Durans defence was near perfect that night
     
    GPater11093, Jul 11, 2009
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  4. Bokaj

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    Beautiful perfomance by Duran. He put on a masterclass in skillful savagery - make that THE masterclass, by the way. And Leonard proved more to me losing than many do winning. One of the very best fighs ever. In terms of combining skill and drama it's probably the very best ever.

    While we never can say for sure why Leonard fought like he did and if he could have fought differently, I think that discussion more than anything else sullies a beautiful moment in boxing history. The fight really is good enough too speak for itself. If it isn't, no fight is.
     
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  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    anyone agree with my new theory
     
    GPater11093, Jul 12, 2009
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  6. Bokaj

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    I definitely think you have a point.

    Have to say though that Leonard put up a great fight when coming back to his senses after the first four-five rounds, during which Duran walked right over him. I think the last two thirds of the fight was quite even. Leonard just didn't catch up with Duran after his strong start.
     
    Bokaj, Jul 12, 2009
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  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    yeh the last five rounds were very competitive Leoanrd did amazing coming back
     
    GPater11093, Jul 12, 2009
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  8. ringsider

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    Duran just beat the **** out of him in the 1st fight. He was the better fighter.
     
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  9. Sweet Pea

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    And then directly afterward he goes on to mention how Angelo Dundee didn't want Leonard backing up at all, that he thought Leonard would be able to take Duran out with his superior firepower.
     
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  10. teeto

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    Not you as well!
     
    teeto, Jul 12, 2009
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  11. Sweet Pea

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    :huh I was disagreeing with Robbi and agreeing with you. Yes, that was his fight plan, but it's not as if everyone thought Leonard needed to stick and move to win the fight, just the commentators.
     
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  12. teeto

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    Oh sorry Pea i'm a klutz!
     
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  13. Robbi

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    Leonard said in front of the press that he'd fight Duran flat-footed and trade with him. They all thought he was mad. That was before the fight. Again, doesn't that say something?
     
    Robbi, Jul 12, 2009
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  14. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    this argument could go on for years, i would like to see Pea, Teeto and Robbis thoughts on my theory as its kinda the bet of both of your theorys
     
    GPater11093, Jul 12, 2009
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  15. Robbi

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    Yeah, he was a patient and resourceful against De Jesus in the third fight. He had learned it all under Brown and Arcel and this fight rubber stamps that claim. Defensively he was as good as ever at the weight and was setting up his attacks like a demon. This fight showed Duran's superb ring sense as a lightweight. However, the Leonard fight was his true style at it's best.
     
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