Pernell Whittaker - How do you beat him.

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  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I'm sound? Cheers. Me and Pea are on a good level with each other. No problems there at all.
     
  2. Flea Man

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    yeah, you're alright mate :lol: you must cringe when you see the things I say to Asero then!

    Wnder what you made of Olu G Rotimi's rant against me (later apoligised but possibly because he was outnumbered lol)
     
  3. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    We're talking about a prime Whitaker obviously.
     
  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    You`d have to be very good at cutting off the ring, decent power, excellent stamina & be mentally strong because Pea WILL frustrate you at times in there no matter how well you are fighting, a decent bob & weave type defence & an ability to go to the body & head regularly would be vital, you`d have to be able to handle yourself on the outside at least because Pea will keep you there at times but really you are looking to back him up as much as possible & make him fight inside were you can outwork him... Whitaker is a very good infighter also but if you can outwork him & just dont let up, keep on top of him & be calculating when cutting the ring off then thats your best bet IMO.

    The man I nominate to pull off this task is Henry Armstrong, tho I think Duran & Chavez might do it also, Duran being favourite to do it & JCC being more 50/50.

    Anyway, I nominate Armstrong as the man to beat Whitaker.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    JCC Prime and Pea prime at 135 would even itself out IMO, maybe slightly closer (though the 1st fight was very competitive) but I think Pea would win a landslide, i.e a draw :rofl
     
  6. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You gotta be ****in kidding me... :roll::patsch
     
  7. Flea Man

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    he's already been terrorised :lol:
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    so we have

    Benny Leonard - drawing Whittaker in

    Duran - cutting of the ring and 'fighting' Whittaker

    can any other LW do it and whats there strategy
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Provide alot of skillful pressure and go to the body......the safety first way that Pernell fights, you dont beat him, he beats himself with his cautious approach.....the Chavez and DLH fights are proof of it!
     
  10. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    :think
     
  11. Manassa

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    At lightweight? There's only a handful who'd stand a significant chance, let alone pull it off.

    It's not to do with Whitaker's strength, stamina, speed, power or durability, all of which he had, but not particularly in abundance. Yes, he was a natural fighter, but he was also such a great visionary that he could read his opponents and adapt to whatever they conjured up as a gameplan (I say conjured to imply 'thrown together' - as Whitaker was hard to read himself). The simpler and more textbook a fighter was, the more decisive Whitaker would beat him.

    That's why I think the two fighters best designed to beat Whitaker are Carlos Ortiz, and in particular, Roberto Duran. Both had multiple forms of attack and Duran especially was quick, defensively brilliant and every bit as clever. I don't think any fighter could fight with a single gameplan and stick with it (like Henry Armstrong might do) without losing on points to Whitaker. You'd have to mix it up.
     
  12. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    If anyone had the boxing brain, skill level, and physical tools to implement that kind of gameplan and stick to it, Leonard would've been the one. That's a fight I'd have loved to see.
     
  13. ripcity

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    I have not read all the responses so I don't know if anyone brought this up yet, but I think the answer is obivious. Tie his shoelaces toegeather.

    I think the key is to be able to impose your will on him. Make him come to you. I beleve that Whitaker would prefer to have his opoent come to him so he could counter punch. This is of course easier said than done. I think Benny Leonard who may have been the best at imposing his will on an oponent could pul it off. I think Floyd Mayweather Jr. who likes to go to the ropes and potshot opoents could also pull it off as well. I would favor Benny Leonard but not Mayweather Jr.
    I think Tommy Hearns has a chance due to his physcial advantages and punching power but he has to use those advantages properly. Stay on the out side. Stick and move. I think both Sugar Ray's have a chance. I think they were both faster than him but I think they would both press the fight espicily Robinson. I can kind of see Leonard fighting off the back foot, and if he dose he coukd very well win. Roberto Duran has very good boxing skills but they are nowhere near Whitaker's. Duran is not out boxing Whitaker. If Duran tries for the knock out Whitaker dose to Duran what he did to Julio Ceaser Chavez.
     
  14. Sweet Pea

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    ****in' A! I've always said you were one of the best posters/writers when you actually gave enough of a **** to put in the effort.
     
  15. Morrissey

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    Would Mosley give him fits there?

    How about JMM (at 135 he looks comfortable as well)?