Yeah I mean...his record means you can't really say it with any sense of conviction, but you got to wonder what Batista would be able to pull out in the bantamweight division of right now for example, with a performance like that...
I got Zarate personally...less organised but more horrible and he brings it back when he gets hit. My guess is a late wilt by Canizales...but great fight.
There aren't too many in bantam history I'd favour over Zarate; Jofre is the only one I'd pick with any sense of conviction off of the top of my head and maybe Panama Al Brown owing to his elusiveness and physical advantages, though I'd like to see a bit more of him. How do people think he would've done against prime Olivares, Rose and Harada?
Is it just me or dad that seem a slightly premature stoppage. I was impressed by Batista up until the stoppage. To be fair though, Zarate was a destroyer.
In my opinion Zarate would beat Canizales in a very close fight where we all feel we saw a great effort by the losing combatant. McGrain nailed it for me, Canizales more organised, Zarate more nasty. I would also pick Zarate over Rose, Rose could possibly look better for a while against Zarate than he did against Olivares, in fact i'm sure he would, but Zarate is always coming for him in my opinion, when the man starts to stamp his trademark all over the fight he will earn his w on the record in my opinion. Panama Al Brown is a man that might be able to get a decision, by not co-operating in any war, and countering. But i must say i think Zarate can earn points here also, his own accurate shots can find the mark and well power means something as well. No man ever kept shy of a bantamweight Carlos Zarate so i don't know. This is one where i sit on the fence, but fall off in Zarate's territory. I think Zarate might outpoint Manuel Ortiz in a war of attrition, but i can't make much of an assumption based on the not extensive footage i have seen, but the same applies for Brown. Harada, this is harder for me to say than others seem to have it. Harada was a dynamo, he could do the Gavin Rees title winning gameplan to perfection (haha, or lets say Manny Pacquiao), meaning the way he performed against Jofre and Rudkin. Simply lets his hands go and they are faster than fast. I can actually see him winning, but i can see both men winning. Jofre hurt Harada though and Zarate is accurate in his own right, plus more powerful, dare i say he could stop Harada? I might have to pick Harada on points here because i haven't picked a man against him yet. By the way, Masahiko Harada could box, his jab was not a non-existent tool in his arsenal, and he could move also, though for me his greatest way of winnig against the best is as i stated above. I take Zarate to beat McGovern in a heavy ammunition trade-off. Now for Jofre, i would pick Jofre because i think he is accurate as can be with his long-range power shots, he can bolo, he can do a sort of inverted or upside down bolo with devastating effect. More to the point, and in more simple terms, he is durable and does the scoring. Zarate-Olivares is a toss up for me but i'm leaning towards Olivares, only because i think that due to the styles and techniques employed in the actual throwing of punches, Olivares can land plenty. But a toss-up in my opinion as the same maybe can be said vice versa, as Zarate would land on anyone.
have you seen Gomez vs Zarate mate? First three rounds are cagey and then Gomez just annihilates Zarate. Whom I think was 54-0(53) at the time. Gomez was 28-0-1(28) (I think!)
i think so but its been a while, Gomez was great really great fighter. In fact im going to make him on FNR4 haha I do however think Olivares is better than Gomez
Maybe in terms of resume. I think Gomez was more impressive to watch in his prime though, more multi-faceted IMO
Gomez was amazing to watch so god damn smooth. Olivares was more relentless a physical phenomenon if you like the Mike Tyson of the Bantamweights (so to speak)