Should there be an end to catch weights regarding PACMAN??

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  1. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac is more than able to fight at 147. The problem is that Cotto has come in at 160 in some of his previous fights.

    PAc can't go above 147/8 so that would be a 13 pound advantage to Cotto.

    147 Welterweight Fighters should fight at the 147. It's a 'LIMIT' for a reason. It's 147 NOT 160 FFS.

    Then we wouldn't need 'catchweights'
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    False. He's never hit 160.

    He weighed 149 against DLH. And Cotto is normally 158. That's a 9lb adantage.
    Yes but fighters are allowed to cut weight to weigh in at a lower weight class.

    I didn't see you caring this much weight when Pacquaio was putting on 15lbs at 130 and 135.
     
  3. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep, everyone else in the boxing world is allowed to fight in Catchweights: Pavlik
    Hopkins
    De La Hoya
    Jermaine Taylor
    Marquez
    Mayweather
    the list goes on...

    But as soon as Pac thinks about doing it (fight not even signed yet!) for the FIRST TIME he gets crucified.
     
  4. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Who was happy for any of the other catchweights? :patsch
     
  5. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :happy
     
  6. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No 147 is the WW Limit. That one particular number is the WW limit.

    141 - WW fight
    142 - WW Fight
    143 - WW Fight
    144 - WW Fight
    145 - WW Fight
    146 - WW FIght
    147 - WW Fight
    148 - Not a WW Fight.

    :hey
     
  7. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    So when Jr WWs fight at 142 for non title fights they are now WWs?

    The list you gave is correct but that is only correct when the fighter is given a chance to weigh in ANYWHERE there.

    Not when his limit is cut down.
     
  8. ApatheticLeader

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    Exactly.
     
  9. Kurdapyo

    Kurdapyo Active Member Full Member

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    Dumb! It's within the welterweight limits --- 141-147.
     
  10. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    So, Cotto can come in at 147 (max) at the weigh in and there should be no problem for that. Right?
     
  11. azteclover

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    NO catchweight's ............PLEASEEEEEEE
     
  12. onepunch.net

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    Only the fisrt 2 names on your list fought for a title at a catchweight. The others are non-title fights.

    I have no problem with them fighting at a catchweight. My problem is if the title will be on the line. A WW title means your opponent may weight up to 147 pounds. Spin it however you want, but it doesnt say 145.
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Yes and no.

    It is but hes not allowed to 147. So it's not deserving of a title.

    If you were a champion, and wanted to defend your TITLE. You should do so at the WEIGHT the title is at.

    The title is the 147lb championship and he is allowed to weigh 147 at the weigh in.

    If he is not allowed to 147 but 145 or under. It is no longer a "WW" fight but it is a catchweight taking place UNDER the WW limit.
     
  14. Kurdapyo

    Kurdapyo Active Member Full Member

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    You're wrong! 147 is the welterweight limit. But welterweight range is 141-147. Contracted weight is the weight agreed upon by both boxers which is the official weight at weigh-in. If the contracted weight falls within the weight range of welterweight and the title is agreed to be at stake and sanctioned by a boxing agency, the fight is legitimate welterweight title fight. There have been numerous title fights done on catchweights. They were mentioned already in this board and I don't need to repeat them.
     
  15. Kurdapyo

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    You're correct when you said "may weigh" but it does not mean "they should" weigh at 147. 147 is the upper limit of welterweight. If both fighters agreed to have a contracted weight at 143 or 145 which is within the WW range of 141-147 and the fight is approved by sanctioning bodies like WBC, WBA, IBF, etc. it is still a legitimate title fight. This is the purpose of pre-fight negotiations. It is not written in stone that a welterweight title should be fought in 147 unless you can post a link to prove otherwise. But records show that title fights were done at catchweight.