Should there be an end to catch weights regarding PACMAN??

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  1. onepunch.net

    onepunch.net Active Member Full Member

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    this is from the WBO rules for title fights........

    WBO Regulations of World Championship Contests Page 6 of 35
    Effective for Championships Contested on or after November 11, 2008

    Jr. Lightweight
    Up to 130 lbs or 58.97 kgs.
    Lightweight
    Up to 135 lbs or 61.24 kgs.
    Jr. Welterweight
    Up to 140 lbs or 63.50 kgs.
    Welterweight
    Up to 147 lbs or 66.68 kgs.

    Jr. Middleweight
    Up to 154 lbs or 69.85 kgs.
    Middleweight
    Up to 160 lbs or 72.58 kgs.
    Super Middleweight
    Up to 168 lbs or 76.36 kgs.
    Light Heavyweight
    Up to 175 lbs or 79.38 kgs.
    Cruiserweight
    Up to 200 lbs or 90.91 kgs.
    Heavyweight
    Over 200 lbs or 90.91 kgs.

    now I could be wrong, but it sure looks to me like it says "up to 147 pounds", and NOT "up to 145 pounds".

    Pac is using financial leverage to re-write the rule to suit his needs. It's a ***** move no matter how you look at it.

    If they fight at 145, it should be a non-title fight.
     
  2. Kurdapyo

    Kurdapyo Active Member Full Member

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    The legal mind is in the house. He's still searching for links that I am asking from him. Just a few minutes, Your Honor. :D
     
  3. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    YES, 147 is the LIMIT. So that means any number between 141 and 147 and a legit fight.
     
  4. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    I think most of the memorable catchweight fights in boxing history were non-title fights.

    It was set up to be able to finally set a "dream match" between 2 great/dominant/popular fighters from different weight classes because neither boxer really wants to invade the other's "territory".

    So they meet in the middle, just to make the fight happen.
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Yup.

    Between 141-147. When each fighter can weight between that.

    Not 141-145.

    :hi:
     
  6. Kurdapyo

    Kurdapyo Active Member Full Member

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    Senor, I did not say "up to 145" but I remember in your previous posts it should be at ****147*****. Since it says "up to 147", it could mean that title fights could be held at 141 to 147 which is the weight range of welterweight. You are therefore mistaken that title fights should be held only at 147. Pac and Cotto can agree to fight for the title at 143 or 145 or whatever is the contracted weight.
     
  7. onepunch.net

    onepunch.net Active Member Full Member

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    No. what it means is that pac is attempting to gain advantage by demanding a reduced weight limit for the welterweight division, in a welterweight title fight.

    You obviously dont get it, so lets just agree to disagree.
     
  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    A WW fight happens between 141-147 when fighters can weight up to 147.

    When that weight is locked below. It is no longer a WW but a catchweight below that limit.

    145 is under the WW limit but its not the WW limit.
     
  9. Kurdapyo

    Kurdapyo Active Member Full Member

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    I did not say 141-145, I've been posting all over this board that welterweight ranges from 141-147.

    Link or STFU!
     
  10. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If he was taking advantage he would excercise his right as the Number 1 Pound 4 Pound on this earth and demand Cotto comes to his weight at 140. Not fight Cotto at 5 Pounds above his best weight.
     
  11. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    WW does range from 141-147

    If the weight is stopped at 145 then its no longer 141-147 is it?

    :hi:
     
  12. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Are you accusing me of being a *******?:huh

    I'm against catch weights but they are not unprecedented. I just feel that if Pac wants to fight welters, and for them to mean something on his resume, he should do so at the full welter limit.
     
  13. onepunch.net

    onepunch.net Active Member Full Member

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    Are you really this stupid, or do you practice alot? 141-147 means that a fighter within that division may come in at any weight within that range. What pac is doing is reducing that allowable range from 147 to 145, thus usurping the rules as they are written, using financial gain as the leverage.

    At 145 it should not be a title fight unless Cotto came in at 145 of his own choosing. Making it a contractural requirement is dead wrong.
     
  14. onepunch.net

    onepunch.net Active Member Full Member

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    be careful my friend. logic is not allowed in pacland. lol
     
  15. Kurdapyo

    Kurdapyo Active Member Full Member

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    Is that your own interpretation? :lol: Onepunch is no longer posting because he discovered he's wrong that title fights should always be at 147. Any fight that ranges from 141 to 147 is a welterweight fight. If both fighters agree to fight that is favorable to both, then it is a catchweight. Catchweights are normally within the weight range of the division, in the case of WW it is 141-147. 147 is just the weight limit of welterweight.