Should there be an end to catch weights regarding PACMAN??

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  1. Kurdapyo

    Kurdapyo Active Member Full Member

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    How many catchweight fights did Pac do, anyway? Count how many, quick! I may be noob in number of posts in this forum, but I am surprised that you who pride yourself as an authority in boxing don't know what contracted weight is in a title fight? You better brush on boxing knowledge which may have been antiquated throughout the years.:lol:
     
  2. eze

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    Who cares how much he outweighs him by.

    Pac was adding more weight at 130 and 135. Now that he's the one being outweighed it's not okay? :lol:
     
  3. onepunch.net

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    nobody is bigger than the sport itself. And nobody in pacland seemed to have any problem with pac coming in the ring in the high 140's when he was at 130 and 135. It's ok for pac, but not for cotto?

    BTW, im 100% for going back to same-day weigh-ins, and putting a stop to all the weight gain bull****.
     
  4. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if your opinion mattered to cotto and pac and the sanctioning bodies, it would have, but then it didn't so stop acting as if you having a problem with it will alter the course of destiny for these people.

    you are just like some fans here, "if pac does not fight cotto at 147, he will not get respect from me."

    you need to stop confusing yourself with lower than and within the weight limit.

    if pac asked cotto to fight at 139/140 lbs for cottos ww crown, that is clearly a violation of the rules. but if they fought at a weight within the WW range, that is perfectly a valid contract because it does not violate any basic rule on range/spectrum does it.

    what it violates is your pretension of seeing pac fighting cotto who will outweigh him 12 pounds on fight night. how can this be a ***** move on the smaller man when he just asks to level the playing field.

    again, i quoted you on your rules. what rules are these?
     
  5. onepunch.net

    onepunch.net Active Member Full Member

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    lol. You obviously dont know what I do for a living, or who I represent. LOL. Here's a homework project for you. list EVERY title fight contracted at a catchweight less than the division limit that took place in the last 10 years.

    hint: it wont take you long, because there arent that many of them.
     
  6. Kurdapyo

    Kurdapyo Active Member Full Member

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    Well, following what you said that fighting at 145 is not a title fight, why should he pay sanctioning fees? Or, are you retracting your statement that title fights should be at 147.

    The 7th title is secondary to him but his health is more important. Btw, I am consistent when I say that the welterweight title can be held at 145. The 7th title is just an icing in the cake, but his well being is more important.
     
  7. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good:good:good. if its within the range, the haters can :|:|:| all they want. at 145, this is a good fight. this will be a much more exciting and fair fight compared to that other supposed megafight being fought at :yikes:yikes:yikes, a catchweight also of 143.:hey:yep
     
  8. onepunch.net

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    you certainly picked the right username.

    I have explained it numerous times. You seem to interpret the rules differently than anyone with more than 15 active brain cells. Believe me, one way or another I will contribute to putting a stop to this crap. Might take awhile, but as a caretaker of the sport I feel obligated to do something about it.

    If it doesnt bother you, then thats great for you. And when 50 other fighters do the same crap, and use leverage to change the rules to suit their own needs, then just maybe a fighter you like will be on the wrong end of one of those situations. At that point though you will have no right to say a ****ing thing.
     
  9. Kurdapyo

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    Oh, I know that. It has been mentioned in this thread by one or two posters here. But that's beside the point. The point is : is it illegal to hold a title fight at 143 or 145? You said, yes, it must be at 147. My opinion is : No, it is not because it is within the weight range of welterweight. Based on what you posted, I am right and you are wrong. :deal
     
  10. onepunch.net

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    jesus christ you are dense. MY WHOLE ARGUMENT is that having a WW title fight at 145 max is bull****. The fact that they are doing it is what is so ****ed up. If it was a non-title fight at 145, then we wouldnt be having this discussion in the first place. jeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzz
     
  11. onepunch.net

    onepunch.net Active Member Full Member

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    that other fight is a non-title fight, as it should be.
     
  12. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, if they could return to the same day weigh-ins without the health implications I'm all for it.

    As much as people hate him (and he pisses me off sometimes) Mayweather Jr is a credit to boxing when it comes to his weight. No re-hydrating, no bloating, no de-hydrating bull****.

    He walks around at the same weight he fights at. That's how it should be for your health. Ricky Hatton should never have been able to call himself 'ELITE' boozing on beers and greasy fat foods between fights is not how you get to be the best. Unless your BLESSED with pure, god-given natural talent, it takes total dedication. It turns out Floyd has talent AND dedication. Jes*s I can't believe I'm saying this about Floyd.

    OK that's enough Floyd compliments from me...his resume though...don't get me started on that, there ain't no compliments coming from me on that.
     
  13. Kurdapyo

    Kurdapyo Active Member Full Member

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    Caretaker? Wow! Who appointed you, btw? :huh
     
  14. onepunch.net

    onepunch.net Active Member Full Member

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    hint: repetitive use of emoticons does not make your weak points any better.

    Last time I attempt this. The rules for welterweight contests allow both fighters the ability to weigh-in between 141 and 147. What you have here is one of the fighters reducing that limit to 145, with the title still being on the line. If you cant see a problem with that, then you are a lost cause.

    and who the **** ever said anything about it being "illegal"? lol
     
  15. scatterbrain

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    oh shoot, were dealing with someone who has a messianic complex here.

    and this is where your argument falls, and your motive shows mi amigo. you are a caretaker of the sport as you claim. because you thing that if 50 other fighters do the same crap, it will be bad for the sport.

    but then, your argument is contradicted by your very argument that there have only been a handful of catchweight fights the last 10 years. cleary, your argument is not based on numbers/statistics/logical reasoning but driven more by personal persuasion.

    if you say there have been a handful of fighters asking this in the last 10 years, how can you imagine 50 fighters doing so now.

    contradictory, yes??