Should there be an end to catch weights regarding PACMAN??

i have a fundamental belief that one should not be able to fight for a welterweight title (or any title), if the weight limit imposed is less than the actual limit of that division.

I would feel the same no matter who the fighter is that we are discussing. I was totally against DLH-Hops being for the middleweight titles at a catchweight of 158 as much as I am against this proposed fight.

 

what. **** eze, i know you are pretty mad from all the lashing that you got from me.

ok, ok. as i have said. i agree.

pbf is lighter than pac walking around weight. :yep

now, can you please leave me in peace? :rofl

 

Walking weight is irrelevant because it varies depending on the lifestyle of a fighter if there is no scheduled fight...

 

Again, again.... what is the "rule of the body"? Is that the one you posted which proved you wrong? if not, could you post it if you have one?

 

**** it, I'll answer it.

If Cotto and his team agreed to it, then there's no real reason why the fight shouldn't go ahead. Having said that, by forcing someone to weight in beneath the welterweight limit, it is no longer a welterweight fight. Pacquiao and his team should have no authority whatsoever to demand that a fighter weighs in beneath an established weight class. If it WASN'T written into the contract that Cotto had to weigh in at 145, but he chose to anyway, then it would be a welterweight fight, as he had the choice to weigh-in at 147 if he wanted.

It's ALL about money and greed, and it's a manifestation of a lot of what is wrong with boxing. It's been proven throughout history (check out the Ross/McLarnin discussion earlier this thread) that catchweights hurt fighters preparation and performance in the ring.

 

notice it says "up to 147", NOT "up to 145".

This shouldnt be so difficult for you to grasp...............

 

well said, but you are wasting your time. *******s dont get it. I'm wasting my time too, but I have about another half hour to kill before my girl gets here with my breakfast. lol

 

This I agree with - Walking weight AND fight-night weight has as much to do with fighter lifestyle out the ring + the way a fighter chooses to train as much as natural size. Some fighters choose to be ill-disciplined, blow up between fights and train primarily to lose weight as quickly as possible. Some choose to stay in shape between fights and focus on other elements of training and losing the weight slowly. There are plenty more variables too when it comes to this, it's not as simplistic as people make it seem.

 

If this is your personal opinion and not rules of the governing body that you mentioned in your other post, I can give you a pass on this. Meanwhile while there is no violation on any rule set by the sanctioning body, the title fight agreed upon at a catchweight within the weight range is legit.

 

It's not just about Pac, dude. In fact, it isn't really about Pac at all. Boxing fans in general struggle to get it.

 

You are supposed to be the caretaker of the sport but you indulge in namecalling.
That tells a lot about your credibility.

 

good example:

ill-disciplined - Hatton
stay in shape - Floyd

 

Well said, it's not about Pac or *******s, it's about boxing in general. This guy who claimed to be "CARETAKER" of boxing doesn't seem to get it.

 

its not about my opinion, its about people like you twisting the interpretation of those rules to suit their own agenda. Fortunately, 99% of the fighters out there have too much honor to try and exploit "gray areas" like this to their advantage, which is why the number of these type fights is so low.

I am currently lobbying the Association of Boxing Commissions, as well as the IBF and the WBO to institute a CLEAR rule that would prohibit weight limitations below division limits in title fights. I dont know if I'll be successful or not, but I feel I have to at least try, instead of just looking the other way..

 

*******s are fans of pac, not fans of boxing in general. They dont count, because as soon as he loses a bout, they will go back to watching billiards, or darts, or whatever it was they were watching before DLH-Pac or Hatton-Pac made them a fan.