Joe Calzaghe is the Greatest Of All Time

Medicine · Jul 14, 2009

margo82 said: ↑

Can people not PM me saying that Ali beats Calzaghe please? I will delete it straightaway, I'm not interested.

Ali is tailor made for Calzaghe, it would be a hard, but clear UD for Calzaghe over either 12 or 15 rounds. For those wondering about weight, I think Calzaghe can carry 190 comfortably.
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Oh yea because Ali will just stand there and let Joe do his little windmill with out trying to move out the way right????

Scar · Jul 14, 2009

Damn, this guy isn't 100% from England and is getting such ******ed fans/comments. Hate to see how Hatton would be rated if he beat Mayweather and Pacquiao, they will probably replace photos of Jesus in Church with Hatton.

margo82 · Jul 14, 2009

Medicine said: ↑

Oh yea because Ali will just stand there and let Joe do his little windmill with out trying to move out the way right????
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Yea, because it's so easy to stop Calzaghe doing it, isn't it? :nut

Calzaghe will work Ali on to the ropes, he'll hit him from all angles whilst he's there. And Calzaghe is too fit and has too good of a workrate to be rope-a-doped, he could punish Ali on the ropes for 20 rounds if he had to.

doomeddisciple · Jul 14, 2009

kosaros said: ↑

As the thread title states, Joe Calzaghe is the greatest of all time and there is no doubting this obvious fact. He is so underestimated that some sick individuals (probably 'bad' Chad Dawson fans) don't even rate him as the greatest Brit fighter of all time. To be honest I don't know how those people sleep at night. I mean Calzaghe has all the attributes needed to be the best:

Does he have a granite chin? Yes
Does he have the heart of a lion? Yes
Does he have power in both hands? Yes
Does he have lightning fast speed in both his hands and movement? Yes
Does he have unmatched stamina resources? Yes

Plus, added to all of these attributes, he has an unmatched resume of a stunning variety of fighters, ranging from fellow hall of fame legends like Hopkins to the greatest prospects like Lacy. Here is a breakdown of just some of the fighters Calzaghe defeated with ease:

Chris Eubank: Eubank is a world class British fighter that held the WBO world title as Middleweight for numerous years and was seen as the first test to Calzaghe. Oh how everyone was wrong, Calzaghe took his first chance of world glory by flooring the iron chinned Eubank in the very first round en route to a very convincing decision. Thus the legend began his incredible super-middleweight title run.

Robin Reid: Another world class British fighter for Calzaghe to fight. Reid had only lost one fight coming into the Calzaghe fight and was at his very peak (past his peak he 'beat' Ottke, although was robbed). He provided to be a challenge for cetain parts of the fight, yet Calzaghe for the most part outboxed his opponent with just one hand! Yes, Calzaghe had injured his other hand so had to beat a world class opponent with one hand and that is exactly what he did and very convincingly he did it as well.

Mario Veit: This unbeaten German tank was the physically bigger fighter when he and Calzaghe met and was very much reported to have a chin just as good as Calzaghe's. Due to Calzaghe finding this disrespectful to his own chin, he knocked out Veit in the very first round, which resulted in his chin turning to glass. Calzaghe won a return fight in similar devastating fashion.

Byron Mitchell: The heavy-handed American came into the fight and was actually the first person to floor Calzaghe in his entire career. Yet this was just mind games from Calzaghe and he lured Mitchell into a false sense of security and unleashed the power to knock Mitchell out.

Jeff Lacy: Dubbed as the next 'Tyson', Lacy came into the Calzaghe fight as the favourite due to the power he had displayed in knocking out previous Calzaghe victim, Reid who had never touched the canvas before. The fight however turned out to be a mismatch, as Calzaghe proved to utterly destroy his opponent by landing an unprecedented 1009 punches and win every single minute of every round. Calzaghe had secured his legacy, but was only warming up.

Mikkel Kessler: After routine wins against very good competitors Sakio Bika and Peter Manfredo, Calzaghe decided to unify the division he had dominated for so many years. Kessler was the opponent in the opposite corner who was unbeaten, younger and the boxing journalists favourite for the fight. Calzaghe was to prove them wrong yet again though as he outworked and outboxed his opponent to a very convincing decision in front of over 50,000 fans in the unmissable super fight of the ages.

Bernard Hopkins: It was now time to crack America and Calzaghe decided to fight Hopkins who was regarded as one of the p4p best in the world, and even moved up in weight to make the fight happen/ Although Hopkins tried his best to stop the Calzaghe whirlwind, Calzaghe again was the victor as he outworked his opponent, who in the end was hanging on for dear life.

Roy Jones Junior: Roy Jones Junior was regarded by some as the best of the generation, whilst Calzaghe was also regarded as the best of the generation. To find out who truly was the best of the generation they met in a super fight. Calzaghe gave Roy Jones the biggest beating of his life (although was kind enough to let him hear the final bell) and due to the manner of this victory, Calzaghe was not only the greatest of his generation, but the greatest of all time. Fact!

So that is the stellar company that Calzaghe boxed in and he beat them all in very convincing fashion. So how would he have fared against some of the all-time greats? Well I have selected a few all-time greats and given my unbiased view as to who would be the victor in these p4p match-ups:

Sugar Ray Robinson: Robinson is without a doubt behind only Calzaghe as the greatest fighter to ever live. Yet losses to journeyman do not help his cause in a match-up to Calzaghe and he even lost to Randolph Turpin who only just about scrapes into the top 10 Brit fighters of all time! Calzaghe with his superior stamina would outwork Robinson to a close, but clear descision in 12 rounds a very clear decision over 15.

Muhammad Ali: 'The greatest' is very much the greatest heavyweight of all time, yet it is hard to envisage him beating Calzaghe. Firstly an opponent like Ken Norton gave Ali all the trouble he could handle and Calzaghe is very much superior to Norton, meaning the trouble Norton caused (which included a victory in their first encounter) would be multiplied by 10 and Calzaghe would win a decision as he outworks Ali.

Roberto Duran: Possibly the greatest lightweight of all time, but he did struggle with Hearns who had a superior reach and kept Duran at bay, making him ineffective and useless. Hearns then ended the fight in the 2nd round. Due to Calzaghe possessing the same type of concussive power as Hearns, he could do a similar job, although I would suspect he would carry Duran until the middle rounds at least, due to Calzaghe's good nature.

Sugar Ray Leonard: Leonard was one of the finest welterweights of all time and possessed fantastic hand speed that could get him out of trouble. Yet it was shown in the Hearn's encounters that he can be outboxed by a fighter with a superior reach and height advantage, which Calzaghe would possess in the match-up, and he can be drawn into a fight as seen in the first Duran fight, which would be playing right into Calzaghe's gameplan. Due to these factors Calzaghe would win a wide unanimous decision.

Rocky Marciano: Another fighter who retired with an unblemished record, although he fought in what was a weak era and was getting outboxed by an old Walcott until he found the punch to stop Walcott. Due to Calzaghe possessing an iron chin, the flat footed Marciano could not play his 'get out of free' card and would comprehensively be outboxed, although his chin should hold up to let him lose only by a desision.

So those are some of the all-time greats, how about matching him up with a current fighter fighting around Calzaghe's weight?

Chad Dawson: What is the point in compairing? Calzaghe wins whenever and however he wants.

So there you have it, I have proven Calzaghe is the GOAT and there is now no denying it with these facts being displayed right in front of you. :good
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:rofl

Wow, I needed a laugh today - That's great, now fook off.

Dr Gonzo · Jul 14, 2009

kosaros said: ↑

Please list 4 British fighter above him please.

Calzaghe vs Ali is a great clash of styles, just how would Ali cope with the pressure and punch output of Calzaghe?
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OMFG

atsch

if this isnt a huge joke then i pray you die in your sleep before someone else kills you

Big T · Jul 14, 2009

kosaros said: ↑

As the thread title states, Joe Calzaghe is the greatest of all time and there is no doubting this obvious fact. He is so underestimated that some sick individuals (probably 'bad' Chad Dawson fans) don't even rate him as the greatest Brit fighter of all time. To be honest I don't know how those people sleep at night. I mean Calzaghe has all the attributes needed to be the best:

Does he have a granite chin? Yes
Does he have the heart of a lion? Yes
Does he have power in both hands? Yes
Does he have lightning fast speed in both his hands and movement? Yes
Does he have unmatched stamina resources? Yes

Plus, added to all of these attributes, he has an unmatched resume of a stunning variety of fighters, ranging from fellow hall of fame legends like Hopkins to the greatest prospects like Lacy. Here is a breakdown of just some of the fighters Calzaghe defeated with ease:

Chris Eubank: Eubank is a world class British fighter that held the WBO world title as Middleweight for numerous years and was seen as the first test to Calzaghe. Oh how everyone was wrong, Calzaghe took his first chance of world glory by flooring the iron chinned Eubank in the very first round en route to a very convincing decision. Thus the legend began his incredible super-middleweight title run.

Robin Reid: Another world class British fighter for Calzaghe to fight. Reid had only lost one fight coming into the Calzaghe fight and was at his very peak (past his peak he 'beat' Ottke, although was robbed). He provided to be a challenge for cetain parts of the fight, yet Calzaghe for the most part outboxed his opponent with just one hand! Yes, Calzaghe had injured his other hand so had to beat a world class opponent with one hand and that is exactly what he did and very convincingly he did it as well.

Mario Veit: This unbeaten German tank was the physically bigger fighter when he and Calzaghe met and was very much reported to have a chin just as good as Calzaghe's. Due to Calzaghe finding this disrespectful to his own chin, he knocked out Veit in the very first round, which resulted in his chin turning to glass. Calzaghe won a return fight in similar devastating fashion.

Byron Mitchell: The heavy-handed American came into the fight and was actually the first person to floor Calzaghe in his entire career. Yet this was just mind games from Calzaghe and he lured Mitchell into a false sense of security and unleashed the power to knock Mitchell out.

Jeff Lacy: Dubbed as the next 'Tyson', Lacy came into the Calzaghe fight as the favourite due to the power he had displayed in knocking out previous Calzaghe victim, Reid who had never touched the canvas before. The fight however turned out to be a mismatch, as Calzaghe proved to utterly destroy his opponent by landing an unprecedented 1009 punches and win every single minute of every round. Calzaghe had secured his legacy, but was only warming up.

Mikkel Kessler: After routine wins against very good competitors Sakio Bika and Peter Manfredo, Calzaghe decided to unify the division he had dominated for so many years. Kessler was the opponent in the opposite corner who was unbeaten, younger and the boxing journalists favourite for the fight. Calzaghe was to prove them wrong yet again though as he outworked and outboxed his opponent to a very convincing decision in front of over 50,000 fans in the unmissable super fight of the ages.

Bernard Hopkins: It was now time to crack America and Calzaghe decided to fight Hopkins who was regarded as one of the p4p best in the world, and even moved up in weight to make the fight happen/ Although Hopkins tried his best to stop the Calzaghe whirlwind, Calzaghe again was the victor as he outworked his opponent, who in the end was hanging on for dear life.

Roy Jones Junior: Roy Jones Junior was regarded by some as the best of the generation, whilst Calzaghe was also regarded as the best of the generation. To find out who truly was the best of the generation they met in a super fight. Calzaghe gave Roy Jones the biggest beating of his life (although was kind enough to let him hear the final bell) and due to the manner of this victory, Calzaghe was not only the greatest of his generation, but the greatest of all time. Fact!

So that is the stellar company that Calzaghe boxed in and he beat them all in very convincing fashion. So how would he have fared against some of the all-time greats? Well I have selected a few all-time greats and given my unbiased view as to who would be the victor in these p4p match-ups:

Sugar Ray Robinson: Robinson is without a doubt behind only Calzaghe as the greatest fighter to ever live. Yet losses to journeyman do not help his cause in a match-up to Calzaghe and he even lost to Randolph Turpin who only just about scrapes into the top 10 Brit fighters of all time! Calzaghe with his superior stamina would outwork Robinson to a close, but clear descision in 12 rounds a very clear decision over 15.

Muhammad Ali: 'The greatest' is very much the greatest heavyweight of all time, yet it is hard to envisage him beating Calzaghe. Firstly an opponent like Ken Norton gave Ali all the trouble he could handle and Calzaghe is very much superior to Norton, meaning the trouble Norton caused (which included a victory in their first encounter) would be multiplied by 10 and Calzaghe would win a decision as he outworks Ali.

Roberto Duran: Possibly the greatest lightweight of all time, but he did struggle with Hearns who had a superior reach and kept Duran at bay, making him ineffective and useless. Hearns then ended the fight in the 2nd round. Due to Calzaghe possessing the same type of concussive power as Hearns, he could do a similar job, although I would suspect he would carry Duran until the middle rounds at least, due to Calzaghe's good nature.

Sugar Ray Leonard: Leonard was one of the finest welterweights of all time and possessed fantastic hand speed that could get him out of trouble. Yet it was shown in the Hearn's encounters that he can be outboxed by a fighter with a superior reach and height advantage, which Calzaghe would possess in the match-up, and he can be drawn into a fight as seen in the first Duran fight, which would be playing right into Calzaghe's gameplan. Due to these factors Calzaghe would win a wide unanimous decision.

Rocky Marciano: Another fighter who retired with an unblemished record, although he fought in what was a weak era and was getting outboxed by an old Walcott until he found the punch to stop Walcott. Due to Calzaghe possessing an iron chin, the flat footed Marciano could not play his 'get out of free' card and would comprehensively be outboxed, although his chin should hold up to let him lose only by a desision.

So those are some of the all-time greats, how about matching him up with a current fighter fighting around Calzaghe's weight?

Chad Dawson: What is the point in compairing? Calzaghe wins whenever and however he wants.

So there you have it, I have proven Calzaghe is the GOAT and there is now no denying it with these facts being displayed right in front of you. :good
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This post just drop my IQ by 150 points. I think most forms of rocks are now smarter then me. :desk:wtf

kosaros · Jul 14, 2009

Dr Gonzo said: ↑

OMFG

atsch

if this isnt a huge joke then i pray you die in your sleep before someone else kills you
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Yeah because someone is going to kill me because I have an opinion about something relating to boxing? :nut

Dustaine · Jul 14, 2009

kosaros said: ↑

Muhammad Ali: 'The greatest' is very much the greatest heavyweight of all time, yet it is hard to envisage him beating Calzaghe. Firstly an opponent like Ken Norton gave Ali all the trouble he could handle and Calzaghe is very much superior to Norton, meaning the trouble Norton caused (which included a victory in their first encounter) would be multiplied by 10 and Calzaghe would win a decision as he outworks Ali.

So there you have it, I have proven Calzaghe is the GOAT and there is now no denying it with these facts being displayed right in front of you. :good
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Does your mother know you are skipping kindergarten classes to post here? Isn't there an adult supervising you????

Man, parents are so careless these days. :-(

margo82 said: ↑

Yea, because it's so easy to stop Calzaghe doing it, isn't it? :nut

Calzaghe will work Ali on to the ropes, he'll hit him from all angles whilst he's there. And Calzaghe is too fit and has too good of a workrate to be rope-a-doped, he could punish Ali on the ropes for 20 rounds if he had to.
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I see your little brother is being neglected too.

Can anyone please call Child Care?????

doubleplaidinum · Jul 14, 2009

whoops....

Big T · Jul 14, 2009

I do agree that Joe has a good chance at kicking Ali ass....heck isnt' Ali over 60 years old now?

Dan684 · Jul 14, 2009

Why are you people so pathetic ?

So far we've had Homophobic slurs, people wishing death upon other posters due to the fact they have a particular opinion over a 'FANTASY BOXING MATCHUP' ? You Ali nuthuggers need to get a grip. There's no way that Ali could withstand Calzaghe's punch volume, NO WAY. There's a chance that a young, powerful Joe stops Ali late on too.

kosaros · Jul 14, 2009

Dustaine said: ↑

Does your mother know you are skipping kindergarten classes to post here? Isn't there an adult supervising you????

Man, parents are so careless these days. :-(
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Clearly not. Look at how well put together the articles is - I would very much like to see you produce an article of the same intellectual level as mine.

Realspitts · Jul 14, 2009

Big T said: ↑

I do agree that Joe has a good chance at kicking Ali ass....heck isnt' Ali over 60 years old now?
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well thats the only way joe will fight him. his track record speaks for itself.

doomeddisciple · Jul 14, 2009

Does he have a granite chin?

Granite? Ali had a granite chin. Hagler had a granite chin. Calzaghe has a decent beard, but he didn't get it tested by prime murderous punchers like Ali or Hags.

Does he have the heart of a lion?

No. A lion's cardiovascular system is vastly different. It allows the lion to roam to other parts and conquor new territory in other lions' territory when the other lion is in it's prime.

Does he have power in both hands?

Mike Tyson has two fisted power. Pacquiao has developed two handed power. Thomas Hearns had a wicked left body hook to go with that sledgehammer right. Calzaghe had a referee willing to prematurley stop a Mitchell or a Manfredo. He hit Jeff Lacy with everything but the ring post and only dropped him once - Not evidence of two fisted power.

Does he have lightning fast speed in both his hands and movement?

He was pretty quick. There are faster fighters of hand and foot at 168 in history let alone other divisions, Roy in the 1990's was like Roadrunner to Joe's Coyoyte

Does he have unmatched stamina resources?

He has excellent conditioning and this would be his ultimate attribute in my view no doubt.

doubleplaidinum · Jul 14, 2009

Dan684 said: ↑

Why are you people so pathetic ?

So far we've had Homophobic slurs, people wishing death upon other posters due to the fact they have a particular opinion over a 'FANTASY BOXING MATCHUP' ? You Ali nuthuggers need to get a grip. There's no way that Ali could withstand Calzaghe's punch volume, NO WAY. There's a chance that a young, powerful Joe stops Ali late on too.
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dude, i've had about enough of you. now this idiot creates a thread that actually crushes yours (in worthlessness) from yesterday which was one of the worst i've EVER seen? jesus christ. when 99% of the posters in your thread say that your thread is worthless, you should probably take their word for it. atschatschatsch

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