The reason why Roberto Duran quit

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  1. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    ray leonard fought his fight unlike in the first and whatever went through durans mind that forced him to quit i'm sure being clowned and being outboxed by leonard and giving him the full satisfaction at the end was one of them, i think it was a way to question or ruin leonard's victory that backfired

    in fairness to duran bringing up hearns to ridicule him is not right, duran was a small dude (much like pacquiao today) and that fight was just a stylistic mismatch, look at durans performance vs hagler one of the all time best middleweights and duran who started very low held his own
     
  2. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    bringing up Hearns is not ridiculous. Hearns and Duran fought at 154 and were champs and Duran fought a division higher for the title before Hearns ever did. Duran fought at 154 pounds first in 1978 before Hearns ever fought at 154, which most people do not know. Duran was fighting over the weight fights as he was a lightweight and being dominant and Duran fought for the 154 pound title before Hearns did-both fighting Benitez-Hearns winning and Duran losing to Wilfred in 1982. Duran was a champ at 154 when Hearns was. Their fight was unification. This was not little Duran moving up and fighting big Hearns. And they had 7 or 8 common opponents. How you can turn that into a mismatch is weight is a reach. Hearns was taller and used his speed well, but Duran had a gameplan to get inside on Hearns and he didn't Hearns right hand was too quick and powerful.
     
  3. MAG1965

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    This Duran excuse stuff I have heard for years. Yet he lost mostly to great fighters in the 1980s, so what a coincidence. He did not train when he fought the great fighters yet he trained for guys like Minchillo and Moore? So just by chance when he fought fast great fighters he didn't train? See how ridiculous this whole excuse thing is for Duran?
     
  4. LONGROB

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    Duran did not train well for basically anyone in the 80's. He was a burned out fighter that only boxed for money. He beat Minchillo and Moore because of his great natural ability and experience. The big three of the 80's were better fighters at the higher weights and Duran beating them outside of his prime was gonna be a stretch, even if he trained to his potential.
     
  5. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    well yeah, he couldn't. it just made it a whole lot worse that he KNEW SRL learned his lesson and he was gonna get outclassed the entire fight. as a result, he just gave up.
     
  6. MAG1965

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    Well then he cannot be top 10 great then because his level of competition in the 1970s was not good enough for that, and if he lost to the best fighters he ever fought and those fighters were Leonard,Hearns,Benitez and Hagler. He lost to them all. Beating Minchillo and Moore were not great accomplishments. Minchillo was a decent european fighter but not great and Moore had 11 fights and was thumbed if you want to get into excuses. The question is did Duran ever train hard if he did not train well for the best guys he ever fought, and can he be near the best ever with his 1970s competition.
     
  7. SAS2

    SAS2 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What I always found extremely amusing and gratifying was the fact that a 38 year old Duran beat Iran Barkley, who twice toasted Hearns.

    Boxing is great 'cause of things like that. :bbb
     
  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Duran Vs. Barkely was awesome fight. When Duran fought Hearns he had only trained for about 2 weeks, had been partying.
     
  9. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There was no valid reason for him quitting like that, period. He looked finr in there. Yes SRL was winning, but Duran was not getting beat up or even remotely close to it.

    People do shits sometimes. Duran just plainly quit because he just do not want to continue. He disgraced himself that night. End of story.

    Golota has far more valid reasons to quit against Tyson than Duran against SRL in the their rematch.

    All these justifications about his weight, him partying between fights, etc, etc as BULL ****ING SHITS.
     
  10. MAG1965

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    How convienient for Duran to have this excuse. He said he only trained 3 weeks for Benitez also, which was another convienient excuse. Those were two fights against greats. Had Duran lost to Barkley he would have said after he only trained one week but since he won he trained. How amazing.
     
  11. MAG1965

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    Much more gratifying seeing two greats like Duran and Hearns fight at the division they are champions at and both had Leonard as rivals, and Hearns demolished Duran in a two round drubbing and outclassing. That was a really significant win. Barkley? I knew Duran would beat him when it was signed. Duran would have never beaten Hearns in a rematch or Frank Tate or Michael Nunn, but Iran was the style made for him. Then Iran losses to Benn in one round a year later. So he beat Barkley. Iran is barely a Hall of Fame fighter. Also Benitez outclassed Duran which people seem to forget. Then Hearns out boxes Benitez.
     
  12. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If not for the SRL fight we would never have to endure the non-stop Duran nuthugging on this board. I wish to hell SRL would have just boxed his ass off the first time around.
     
  13. safc1990

    safc1990 Goodbye Bolo :( Full Member

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    I agree with what Emanuel Steward said in Four Kings that Duran thought that he was committing the ultimate macho act as Leonard didn't want to trade not realising the **** he would get for quitting.
     
  14. MAG1965

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    I agree. Ray gave Duran that win which then gave Duran the bragging rights. Duran fans do not seem to realize that it was Ray who decided to fight the inside fight the first time. All Ray had to do was box and use his speed and he won easily.
     
  15. MAG1965

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    I would buy that if round 8 did not have Ray landing more bodyshots and head punches. Seems like when he started to put his punches together that is when Duran quit.