Rumours from within the Wildcard - Re Khan

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  1. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We all know Khan will not become the best 140 fighter over night if he wins tonight, but he will be on the right path it will open more doors. On Bunce Boxing hour Khan said he is not ready for the likes of JJM and elite fighters of that range. Sky have just been talking **** to build up the fight with names like Mayweather, and Pacman. Fighter like Medina are high risk at this stage and bring low reward. Look what happen to Ortiz.
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Hello...its not supposed to be a ****ing walk in the park as 'World Champion'. High risk low reward...what the ****!? What...you mean there is an actual risk involved... :roll:

    This **** is pathetic. There comes a certain point where its almost acceptable to be cherrypicking fights against anybody you damn well feel like to maximize pay days, when you've earnt the right to by defending your titles and beating other world champs. Mayweather and Pacquiao for example are in that category.

    He's ready to cherrypick Morales but he isn't ready to defend against Maidana. Pathetic, can't believe you defend this.
     
  3. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with what you are saying, but this is now how the high end of boxing works. No one wants to risk their money makers, it is a shame i know but Khan will have to do what he is told by Warren/Roach. All iam saying Khan is young and does not need to take risks right now. Mayweather is in his prime and still dont like to take big risks, says boxing is a business, fighters are now products.
     
  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    No, this is how the high end of boxing works if you are Amir Khan. Look at the other world champions and good fighters in the division. Maidana fought Kotelnik, but then he went to the US as a big underdog to face Ortiz.

    Tim Bradley came to the UK to fight Witter, then fought a tough fight with Kendall Holt.

    Kotelnik, well he's earned his stripes in the proper way, he's fought everyone that is anyone pretty much.

    Amir Khan and Roach do not want to prove themselves, they want to cherrypick fights where the odds are stacked in their favour and earn money.
     
  5. Paddy

    Paddy ESB Founders Club Full Member

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    Ive heard good things from wildcard about khan myself

    that video of khan earlier this week was RELEASED by warren

    theres a reason for that......
     
  6. Darni187

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    Yep but the sad fact is they are not PPV fighters and dont hype around them, thats why they are willing to take risks to pay the bills, Khan dont have to and still make more than them. I dont agree with it but thats the bottem line. Khan himslef i think got balls for these fights, but after Prescott Warren will cherrypick for now at least.
     
  7. TFFP

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    To be fair I agree with that. The lad Khan has balls and character IMO, I think he'd fight anyone.

    Unfortunately Mr. Roach is giving Warren excuses to make **** fights with the way he's talking. Very disapointed with him, but then I suppose its to be expected the way he tries to get everybody to fight Pac at catchweights.
     
  8. Paddy

    Paddy ESB Founders Club Full Member

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    agree100% khan will fight anyone but its ups to warren to make fights....
     
  9. gallardo

    gallardo Active Member Full Member

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    Dude, you seem uncharacteristically angry...take a step back for a moment. While I agree continously cherrypicking the best money fights is not great for the sport, I think you're missing a major point here: Roach hasn't said Khan will never fight boxing greats (in fact, in the Bunce interview he said that in time Khan has the potential to be a top fighter amongst the likes of Pacman and Mayweather), but right now Khan is not ready. He's still learning. ....so while learning, he's going for the best fights to help him develop and are commercially attractive.

    An example of high risk / low reward? Khan v Prescott. Khan had nothing to gain fighting this guy, and everything to lose.

    Another example now being slagged off for high risk / low reward: Ortiz v Maidana.

    If everyone knows Khan is developing (he himself admits not being ready for Marquez) - it's unwise to throw him in with such fighters straight away.

    This is only Khan's 22 fight. Give the kid a break.

    ps. As for why fight Kotelnik? It's a great fight for Amir to continue developing while acting as a stepping stone. Lower risk / high reward. Don't hate the player (in this case Khan), hate the game.
     
  10. TFFP

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    I don't hate the game, because as I've demonstrated the other fighters in the division are quite willing to fight each other.

    All your post demonstrates to me is how accepting you are of nonsense cherrypicking. I'm not asking for him to fight Marquez, I'm asking for him to defend the belt he may win tonight. It's quite a reasonable request really, if you are going to call yourself a world champ.

    As for Ortiz and Prescott, yeah - they are all bad fights if you lose. How people react is just indicative of modern boxing where a loss is seen as a crisis. If we are going to compensate for that by cherrypicking easy fights you have a vicious circle right there.
     
  11. icemax

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    One where the "no mandatory" Ring belt rules the roost :deal

    I still can't work out how Maidana is mando for this belt. If Kotelnik wins we will have the ridiculous situation where he will have to fight a man again who he beat only one contest ago
     
  12. nufc16

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    holloway comparing him to arthur abraham :D
     
  13. gallardo

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    I've heard Salita's name also being mentioned as a Mando to the belt.
     
  14. superfly98

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    yeah i was like wtf when i heatd that!:?

    Not sure about the video though. He aint gonna dog amir when he's in the gym. Also I think the problem with Amir is the people around him. He seems like a great guy but gets influenced by the people around him. Hyping him up every minute
     
  15. duffman85

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    I personally dont feel Khan is doing anything wrong, they're in this business to make money and a clever manager will pick his fighter the matches for the MOST money with the LEAST risk.

    He's still learning the game and when he has built up a following and a good resume he can go into some of these big name fights and make a lot more money than he would by fighting them now.

    A guy like Mayweather shouldn't be running from opponents cherrypicking fights, how can you claim to be p4p champ when he has constantly ducked the likes of Cotto and Mosley or even Margarito.

    Once you have risen to the top THEN you start taking on all challengers.