Calzaghe or Hamed - who has the better legacy?

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  1. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hamed and Calzaghe will always have ifs,buts and maybe's underlining there careers.Joe could have done more to force the big fights and as silly as it may sound Hamed should have stuck with Warren.The writing was on the wall for Hamed as soon as his family took over his business affairs and the split with Ingle was the final nail.The Hamed that lost to Berrera was a shadow of the fighter that owned the division during the mid 90's.Calzaghe was a far more accomplished and polished all rounder during the twilight of his career,but there was something about the raw,arrogant and aggressive younger version that i liked.I'm afraid i'll have to get splinters in my ass guys on this call.
     
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  2. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I think Naz split with Warren at the right time actually. The split with Ingle was much more significant, and had a greater impact on Naz's decline.
     
    El Cepillo, Jun 17, 2009
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  3. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    Hamed

    Painfully underrated (not talking about in his last couple years after leaving Ingle etc), if they were the same weight, Naz KO's Calzaghe everytime.
     
    theboy_racer, Jun 17, 2009
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  4. rumour24tiger

    rumour24tiger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hame seemed to do more, but flopped so spectacularly by the end of his career

    calzaghe didn't exactly leave a great impression (v old jones) but retired with his record intact.
     
    rumour24tiger, Jun 18, 2009
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  5. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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  6. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    calzaghe just but naz was way more fun to watch ....great post
     
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  7. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dumb thread, Calzaghe hands down.
     
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  8. Archevol

    Archevol New Member Full Member

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    Saw an interesting comment a few days ago.

    Calzaghe didn't unify for years.

    Looking at it differently. He was good enough to stop anyone else unifying for a decade.
     
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  9. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Read the article, if you can come up with a solid argument why Calzaghe has a better legacy, then get back to me. If this is all you can contribute, don't even bother posting. :hi:
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 19, 2009
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  10. 'Ben'

    'Ben' Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe beat Eubank and not Benn just so you know.:good

    I have to admit I loved Hamed. He is my personal best fighter from the UK of all time!..... but Calzaghe has the much better legacy. Hamed just never lived up to his potential, got beat by Barrera when I really think Hamed had it in him to win against him. Shame.
     
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  11. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    If 'legacy' is determined solely by boxing achivment, then the only thing that seperates Calzaghe from Hamed, is Calzaghe's win over Hopkins. That's it. Take the Hopkins win away and Hamed has a much stronger case, he achived everything Calzaghe did, and in a more timely manner.

    If legacy includes fame and impact on the sport, hand's down it's Naz who has the better legacy.
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 19, 2009
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  12. Ricjkards

    Ricjkards New Member Full Member

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    NAz did what, fought 31 bums and then lost to Barrera, yea what a great record, no one over here like Calzaghe but at least he UNIFIED his divsion and won the ring belt on top. Then he moved up in weight at 36 poast his prime and in his first fight at the weight won the ring belt at light heavy away from home(against Hopkins the best light heavy in the world at the time).
     
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  13. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Naz unified the division. He was also linear. It took Calzaghe 10 years to achive what Hamed did in 3.

    Also, included in those "31 bums" that Naz fought, was a three-weight world champ (Vasquez), a five-time world champ (Medina), a guy who'd just made 10 successful defences of his title (Johnson), another fighter with 14 succesful defences of his IBF belt (Bungu) and five other world title holders (McCullough, Kelley, Ingle, Soto, Robinson).

    Hardly a collection of bums and nobodies is it?
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 19, 2009
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  14. Ricjkards

    Ricjkards New Member Full Member

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    Naz never won the WBA, IBF or the ring title at his weight. Look i;m a big hater of Calzaghe in the past but i don't get this buls**** of judging fighters differently based on their name. Calzaghe won the IBF, WBC, WBA, WBO and ring title, he unified his division. Naz did not.
     
    Ricjkards, Jul 19, 2009
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  15. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I can't really argue with ignorance. If you truly believe that Naz didn't win the IBF belt or unify the division then that's your own problem.

    The fact is, Naz beat Robinson for WBO belt, he beat Johnson for the IBF belt, he beat Soto for the WBC belt and then KO'd the WBA champion - thus unifying the division by establishing lineage.

    End of story.
     
    El Cepillo, Jul 19, 2009
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