Pavlik to fight and HBO approves four possible fighters.....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 1ytownfan, Jul 18, 2009.


  1. gorgse

    gorgse Active Member Full Member

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    Hopkins isn't fighting anyone, if Pavlik was sick like he said he was before the first fight, there is no reason why not to try and avenge his previous loss. It would sell and its the only way Pavlik will regain his legacy.
     
  2. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Pavlik was gonna stay at 160 for a while after the Hopkins loss. Why is top rank even considering super middleweights right now? Martinez also shouldn't even be considered. Pavlik wants Sturm and HBO should make it happen. They most likely would get Winky Wright though.
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Sturm is KP's preferred opponent. I'm just concerned that HBO will **** it up.
     
  4. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would like to see Pavlik against Sturm. My scond choise would be Winky Wright even though he lost his last two fight. It is not shameful to lose against Hopkins or Williams.

    I think that Pavlik should stay at 160 as long as he has not problems making that weight. It is different with Abraham. He could not continue making that weight comfortably. Now the things do not look so exciting at 160 but we do not know what tomorrow will bring.
     
  5. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    **** it KP should just go after Balzsay and if he comes out the winner (which i give him the Edge) then go fo rthe Bute vs Andrade Winner. after that the Winner of the Super 6 will be ready to clash with the HBO fighter and set up a mega show down
     
  6. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Write this down bro -- the winner of the showtime tournament will fight Pavlik, Bute, or both ON HBO!
     
  7. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik does not look that good at higher weight. His second fight with Taylor and the notorious letdwon with Hopkins proved that. He should stay at 160 as long as he can. Big fight will come up. Hopkins spent years without any significant fight. It was not bad for him. Big fights came to him.
     
  8. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is a long way to go. This tournament will take a lot of time. Meanwhile anything can happen.

    Pavlik should stick to 160 and rebuilding himself.
     
  9. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    TBH it's in KP best intrest to move up to 168 were he either sinks or swimms. at 160 all he has is sturm who was KO'd by Javier Castillejo FFS!!! 160 is weak as **** and a PW fight won't be made. and the Winky fight lost all of it's luster. either feast on an endless mound of subpar fighters or shoot for the Glory. and the Glory is at 168. were you either Sink or swimm even Brother Nazim knows there's not swimming W/O getting wet in this division.

    Like Wiily Shakes said KP" some are born great, some acheive greatness and some have greatness thrust upon them. 168 is the key to KP legacy not waiting around at 168 for some prospect to come around in the next 3-4 years. Thing is KP needs to make a decision quick.
     
  10. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, it is not in his interest to move up to 168. All major fights there are reserved for the big 6. It does not make any sense for Pavlik to move to 168 when big names are already involved for the next 2-3 years.
     
  11. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Balzay is the best option. He is the weakest champion at 168 and I give Kelly the edge. If he could win that then he has put himself in a good position for fights against Andrade, Green, Hanshaw, or even a big unification fight with Bute.

    Sturm is ok, but I don't think anyone will care much because of how weak Sturm really is.

    Winky is a ridiculous fight. Martinez is a much smaller guy and Pavlik will be ridiculed indefinitely if he takes it. And if he does he needs to stop the much smaller Martinez in a couple of rounds to avoid looking stupid.

    Willimas is as good an opponent as Balzay. He is not as big and he is not as established at 160 or above, but given his height it would still be an interesting fight.
     
  12. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    You made some good points. However, Haglar and Hopkins did not have a stacked division to work with. That's why their best wins were against smaller guys who moved up. They both seem to have done just fine in terms of both legacy and money. The main thing KP needs to realize is that if he wants to stay at 160, there are no money fights in the near future.

    Remember this guy? This is the guy people love to watch. This is what KP built his career on, and this is what he needs to get back to.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twidZp1ePUk
     
  13. cupid

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    Pavlic ducking PW
     
  14. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Who are you, Steve Bunce? :lol: Nah, that fight wouldn't sell. Everybody's jumped off the Pavlik bandwagon after the first loss, and the fight didn't get that many buys anyway. It's always going to be a bad stylistic match-up for KP, and flirting with the weight isn't good - if he wants to fight above 160, he has to make the permanent move rather than just bloating up.
     
  15. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, and that is also the reason why Hopkins got so much credit for beating Tarver. Because before that there were plenty of problems with the fact that he usually fed on smaller fighters.

    Hopkins however was in a different situation. He had a division that was almost as weak as MW now (not quite though) and there were NOONE to move up to at SMW.

    So he could not be blamed for not moving up. Now SMW is stacked so obviously Pavlik will be blamed is he instead tries to avoid the competition.