Let's say pac beats cotto @ 145 and...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by enzo, Jul 22, 2009.


  1. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well if the belt isn't on the line you really have no reason to consider him the champ at all. I mean I don't consider Miguel the champ at 147 right now just a title holder so if the belt isn't on the line that means pac isn't even a title holder.
     
  2. Ech110

    Ech110 Active Member Full Member

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    correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the Welter Weight limit state that you can weigh no less than 140lbs and no more than 147?
     
  3. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah, Cotto isnt a real champ at 147 anyway. Mosley is the champ as far as im concerned. Though I consider him a real champ at 140 and 126 when others seem not to...

    Still that doesnt take away from Pacs win, good fight are good fight regardless of ABC titles. Cotto is a legendary scalp for anybody let alone a former flyweight champ!! Manny really does have a Greblike resume.
     
  4. carras

    carras Well-Known Member Full Member

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    damn...
    I don't know if i've ever agreed with you at anything.
     
  5. scilent assasin

    scilent assasin p4p Full Member

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    no... no belt his not a champ at 147
     
  6. MAYLO

    MAYLO Active Member Full Member

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    If they came in at 145 because they were in good shape but COULD have come in at 147 id still consider him the champ. But since its a contracted 145 catch weight fight...NO, NO, NO. If you want his belt, let him come in at his weight!
     
  7. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    I won't consider him the champ even if he wins WITH the belt on the line.
     
  8. Bodysnatcher

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  9. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto weighed 146 last time. He is forced to cut one pound, and weigh 145. I think it should be for the WW title (140-147), but I honestly don't see why Team pac bothered with this. Hell, if Pac would have fought Cotto at WW (meaning you could weigh in at 147) cotto may have came in at 145 anyways...So then there'd be no excuses.
    Now, there will be excuses, and they will have a reason to discredit Pac. If he wins the title everybody will argue he doesn't deserve it. So, I'll give him full credit, and say he deserves the belt, but mad they bothered making it a catchweight of only -2 pds...
     
  10. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok then say the catch weight is 145lb and the regular Cotto weight is 146 which makes the difference of 1 lb. Assume then that Cotto have a bad day eating stinky burrito and spend like 2 lb in the restroom before the fight. Is he then breaking the agreement if he go to the weight in at 144 lb? Should he be stripped from the title because he vomited for 3 hours and did not reach the 145lb in the contract?
     
  11. rickx1

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  13. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't even consider Cotto the champ at 147, so no.
     
  14. p4p_kid

    p4p_kid Well-Known Member Full Member

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  15. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    champ .... by beltholder - that is enough for PAC right now