Calzaghe retires at the right time

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  1. Who said Calzaghe was the sharpest tool in the shed?
     
  2. southpaw83

    southpaw83 Member Full Member

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    I'll tell you one thing, he's cleverer than you.

    ****ing Forrest Gump's smarter than you
     
  3. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is one of the dumbest statements I have read in a while. Joe would box circles around Froch. He would make him look twice as bad as B-Hop made Pavlik look. Pavlik would land right hand after right hand on him? If B-Hop and Jones, two guys who have hands twice as fast as Pavlik or Froch couldn't land shots on Joe (except during the first round) what makes you think guys that are slow as **** like Pavlik and Froch would? You're an idiot.
     
  4. Language.

    You seem to be taking this personally, there's no need. Just blame it on that fraud, Calzaghe.
     
  5. southpaw83

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    I'm not taking anything personally. I just have very little time for fantasists. I mean, you're either fishing for a reaction or you're a moron.
     
  6. The fact they can do it all night, and not once or twice a round at best.

    Real champions, real warriors like Pavlik and Froch are poison to the airyfairy thrills of someone like Calzaghe. He's not used to facing fit, young opponents who won't fade down the stretch like Kessler (hand injury), Hopkins (past 40), Jones (destroyed by Tarver and Johnson, barely beating Prince Somebody and Tony Thingy, still dropped Calzaghe in less than 3 minutes)...

    The facts are there, I mean - he barely lands on Hopkins, and thinks he won?
     
  7. JonesHagler

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    Roy Jones ko1 calzaghe so easily it's not even funny.

    Calzaghe is hardly even a real champion by all the shitty boxers he faced
     
  8. I believe you're overestimating Calzaghe here...

    Like he'd actually sign and turn up for this fight....
     
  9. southpaw83

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    What facts? What about the ones you are ignoring. Kessler's hand injury be anything like Calzaghe's that he fought with years for?

    Hopkins, who absolutely dismantled Pavlik, reduced to holding and hugging because he had trouble with fighters with high workrates (like, em, Jones and Taylor)

    Jones Jr, and even though the fight was pointless, you negate to mention the following 11 rounds of sheer domination from Calzaghe.

    Let's not mention the fact that Calzaghe himself was not exactly a spring chicken when these fights took place (thing is, I can almost guarantee you hadnt seen him before the Lacy fight)

    Calzaghe deserves criticism for certain aspects of his career, so why make stuff up and ignore facts?
     
  10. southpaw83

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    Like there would actually have been a contract to sign.

    I don't recall Calzaghe ever having been in the Police Force
     
  11. JonesHagler

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    lol you know that Calzaghe has faced WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY worse competiton than Jones....i mean WAYYYYYYYYYY worse
     
  12. southpaw83

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    That's perhaps true, but Roy Jones, despite his phenomenal talent, would NEVER have chosen (and he could choose very easily at his peak) to make an offer to fight Calzaghe, a risky European champion.

    Not when he could continue to pretend he was a chicken breeder/rap star/basketball player and knock out public officials in his spare time.

    Calzaghe rightly gets criticised for a lot of his opponents, but **** me Jones didnt have milk the HBO dollars fighting bums himself
     
  13. Calzaghe's hand injury's really came up against Ashira (the fact Calzaghe beat him with one hand shows how good Ashira was), and against Reid. Reid was hardly motivated, nor that good, yet he was very unlucky not to come away a winner that fight. Benefits of being in Warrens stable I'd imagine.

    Hopkins? Probably to stop Calzaghe from SLAPPING him in the face, or from hitting him in the crotch. Poor showing by Cortez from not taking a point away for that. Three lowblows really deserve a point deduction. Minimum. Pavlik was suffering from multiple injuries and illnesses in that fight - a fit Pavlik would have made Hopkins lose, and badly.

    Again - Calzaghe may have "dominated" the remainder of that fight - yet he couldn't even stop a near dead-man walking, shot version of what was once a great fighter. Now he's a great memory.

    No, he wasn't quite the spring chicken, however, he peaked late, and wouldn't take any fight/risk where he wouldn't have some kind of advantage - especially against true legends of the sport, who had proven themselves over the years.

    You'll be interested to know that I had seen Calzaghe fight before Lacy, and that I did pick Calzaghe over Lacy.

    Calzaghe deserves a lot of criticism, however - he should be applauded for his ability to make some people think he is worthy of anything more than a HOF place - and the standards for HOF has decreased dramatically in recent years.

    Yes, there would have had to be a contract to sign, had Jones/Calzaghe actually made a fight - which was the hypothetical situation poised by the previously quoted posts (Socrates, JonesHagler, and yours truly).

    As for the Police Force statement, that's probably because he was never in. Why that's relevant, I'll never know.
     
  14. JonesHagler

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    so your saying calzaghe is more riskier than anybody that Jones ever faced?
     
  15. southpaw83

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    Where or when did I say that?

    Calzaghe wasn't a name at time, but was a risk.

    Jones wouldn't take a risk for the same money he could get for KOing a bum.