How good is Valuevs chin?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by AndrewFFC, Jul 22, 2009.


  1. AndrewFFC

    AndrewFFC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see Valuevs ability to take a shot as being the key to the outcome of the fight

    Can anyone shed a little more light
     
  2. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    We'll soon find out.

    Don't think he's ever fought a puncher like Haye.
     
  3. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    He's been 'stunned' but not 'hurt'. I'd say Ruiz buzzed him, got his attention. Never really hurt in the true boxing sense where his legs have been gone and he's been close to being put down.
     
  4. AndrewFFC

    AndrewFFC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Interesting stuff, in that case do you think Haye has to outpoint Valuev by using his speed, or do you think the reach is just too big?
     
  5. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He has a very good chin. I have seen him stunned a couple of times, but he has shown good durability.
     
  6. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    Yeah i think Chagaev also had him like that before. I think its going to take a solid beating before Valuev goes down
     
  7. AndrewFFC

    AndrewFFC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ive had a look at NV record and the KO's are in short supply, so it very much looks as if it will be a case of who can outbox who.
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Not really, its pretty obvious he's an average puncher by heavyweight standards. He kinda makes up for it by punching often, but he's never stopping a good durable fighter.

    My theory is his handspeed is too slow to generate anything other than solid power. You can't get a real snap in a punch like that.
     
  9. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    If he puts Haye on his ass I lose any hope of Haye beating the Klitschko's. It's not just a matter of punch resistance or durability, or the fact Valuev is a pretty poor puncher, but the key for him is supposed to be the relative speed difference between him and his opponents. People talk about the 'Matrix', but in all seriousness it is supposed to look like that against Valuev if he has any hope of outmaneorering a Klitschko.

    He's got to show tangible evidence of this speed and boxing skill he keeps talking about, because power alone does not do ****. Plenty of people have power.
     
  10. wgain

    wgain Member Full Member

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    In my eyes the real deal holyfield beat this Freak they call valuev so hate shouldn't haye any problems.
     
  11. charliesharkey

    charliesharkey Member Full Member

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    shouldnt haye be preparing to test the man's solar plexus instead of his chin?!
     
  12. BURNLEYBLUE

    BURNLEYBLUE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's far from granite...Youve just got to be able to reach the ****er.
    This is a graet fight for Haye imo.
     
  13. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I have never seen Valouev hurt, not one time. Who does Don King want to win this fight? Valouev can punch really hard whenever he so wants and he does not have to fear Haye's punching power. Haye is afraid for both Vitali and Vlad.
     
  14. TehRileh

    TehRileh HUDDERSFIELD TOWN FC Full Member

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    You need to watch more fights if you have never seen him hurt. If Ruiz caan stun and hurt him im sure someone with hayes predator killing instincts can hurt him.
     
  15. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fighting Valuev is a good move as he was Vitali's preferred opponent originally.

    If Haye beats Valuev that puts him in a better bargaining position.

    Valuev has enough power to keep people on the outside for sure.