If Hopkins beats Dawson how high is he on the ATG list?

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  1. DaHead242

    DaHead242 Active Member Full Member

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    Joe is top 100-150
     
  2. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like it or not, If hopkins was to beat Dawson it would enhance Joe's legacy. With back to back wins over Pavlik and then Dawson Bernard would show that while he may have been past his prime, he still had a lot left and was no where near shot when Joe beat him.
     
  3. JonesHagler

    JonesHagler Active Member Full Member

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    for real i'd probably say top 250
     
  4. Aniki

    Aniki Star Puncher Full Member

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    :good
     
  5. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    he'll be waaayy up there in my book. i really dont think he can pull it off, but if he does, i'll be ****in amazed.
     
  6. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Hopkins can do it if he is at his best.
     
  7. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Probably would get him inside the top 30.
     
  8. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    That would be a remarkable feat by the cagy old vet. Take into account that he'd be 45, coming off over a year of inactivity, and beating a guy so much younger and on a hot streak against real quality LHWs.

    I don't know where he rates now as I've never done a list (nor am I qualified), but I'd imagine he's in most peoples top 50-60, so I'd say he'd be somewhere in the top 40 if he beat Dawson.
     
  9. Gesta

    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    top 30 to 25.
     
  10. No10Point

    No10Point Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Since I don't rate Dawson high at all.
    Not much more than he already is. Plus Dawson lost the first Johnson fight. Everyone knows that. So unless Johnson has finally gotten old he will lose again. But win the fight.
    Yes- I just said it. Johnson is going to get screwed AGAIN. First time it was because they already had a MAGA fight set up with Tarver. This time it is already set up with Hopkins.
    The people in power aren't going to lose that money over a fighters record.
     
  11. Powerman55

    Powerman55 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can pick big holes in Hopkins wins. All his biggest wins have been against smaller men: De La Hoya, Pavlik, Trinidad.

    And the biggest fights where he really needed to pull out something special he fought too defensively and didn't do enough to win: Calzaghe, Taylor x 2.

    He also clearly lost to Roy Jones Jr.

    Although if he beat Dawson I'd have to give him great respect, Dawson is a big man, has great skills/speed, in his prime etc etc
     
  12. stiga

    stiga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hopkins will top 40
     
  13. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    Its a good question and Id have to see some lists to figure him in. I havent done one in a long time. i would likely move him inside the top 50.
     
  14. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Dawson or no Dawson Hopkins is cemented in the top 20 maybe 15 of all time .

    Hopkins was an ATG long before Dawson was a world champion , and Dawson is not all that , i dont think BHop takes much away from this fight in terms of credit as Dawson is genuinly over rated , he is just the name at the top of the list thats it !!!!!!
     
  15. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    I like you do not see the hype in Dawson to be true , but Johnson gassed in this fight and Dawson pulled away and in my eyes was the clear winner come the end !!!!!