ESB Classic Forum All-Time Rankings by Division - P4P Survey Updated in October 2011

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Jul 19, 2009.


  1. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Wether he is overrated in terms of ability or not, Lennox is clearly inside the top ten.
     
  2. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    I think Foreman is the morst overrated guy in the list. Out of 0ver 100 years of heavyweight fighting, Foreman spent roughly 1.5 years as the best heavyweight in the world.

    To me that doesn't get you in the top ten.

    Keith
     
  3. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    It's subjective though, he fought in a golden era, got some very good wins, and has that second career which can bolster his standing. I'm not a Foreman fan or anything, just playing Devil's advocate.
     
  4. keith

    keith ESB OG Full Member

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    It's obviously subjective, but I can't rate anyone in the top ten who didn't spend at least 1 % of the time as the best fighter.

    Keith
     
  5. teeto

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    Yeah it's more resume than time with a belt though imo. Maybe if he fought in a less stacked era he would be dominant, you just don't know.

    Again, just devil's advocate really.
     
  6. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    In your mind. He doesn't make my top 10 list.

    As for Foreman. I think he gets underrated here and on ESB. Monster era with a lot of big ones and good performances.
     
  7. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yeah, in my mind!
     
  8. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Just curious, but why just the original 8 divisions why not do the Super and Junior weights as well?

    As for the Foreman discussion I feel he is one of the best Heavyweights of All Time. He was in a great era of Heavyweight Boxing. He destroyed fighters like Frazier, and Norton who are great themselves. He got beat by the best Heavyweight of All Time, and there is no shame in that. I wouldn't put Wladimir Klitschko ahead of a fighter like Foreman just because Wlad has pretty much been the best for about 3 years now.
     
  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    We may get to that eventually.

    For now, the goal is 8 original weight classes followed by all-time P4P rankings.

    :smoke
     
  10. Sweet Pea

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    Because noone in their right mind would try to do a 32 man Tournament with Cruiserweights or Strawweights.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    :lol:
     
  12. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Wow, just imagine the strawweight one, i might not even get involved if someone does that tournament.
     
  13. Flea Man

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    Well, I think the winner is pretty much clear. Unless anyone knows of someone who could have a GOOD case for beating Lopez?
     
  14. teeto

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    I know, as if Yutaka Niida's name isn't already on the trophy:lol::lol:
     
  15. Flea Man

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    All jokes aside, Niida was good.