Ali vs. Tyson Who Wins This Mystical Bout?

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  1. JabCross727

    JabCross727 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Seen it in the European forum. Bringing it to the correct forum: The Classic Boxing Forum.

    Vote and explain the fight and result.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Ali wins.

    Tyson just didn't look that well when he was troubled. He looked frustrated when troubled, throughout his career. Ali is hard to hit, hard to hit clean, was only stopped versus Holmes and expert at gathering points.

    Not to mention he was very good at soliving his opponents across the ring, had a concrete jaw and made good small tactical adjustments.

    I do not think that Mike's chances are serious.
     
  3. PbP Bacon

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    Ali, hands out.

    Prime Ali was just too good defensively, too fast of hands and feet for Mike to catch.

    Furthermore, Tyson lacked the mental strenght to go head to head with Ali.

    Had this fight ever happened Tyson would have bitten Ali's ears out of sheer frustration :yep
     
  4. teeto

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    Even if you fancy Mike's chances as a counterpuncher in mid ring, the fact is, that in real life there are press conferences. How under Tyson's skin would Ali get? Would be unreal.

    As it is i just take Ali.
     
  5. Chinxkid

    Chinxkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was on I believe Leno or Arsenio that Ali and Tyson were guests. Tyson had obvious respect, reverence for Muhammad, and Ali said when he asked how he would have done against Tyson, "If he'd hit me, he'd kill me." Therein the best clue to how the fight would have gone, at least in what Ali's gameplan would have been. Like others here, if I gotta bet I got Muhummad, but if anybody had a puncher's chance it was Mike.
     
  6. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    There is only one man that (in these hypothetical fantasy matches) i could really consider picking over Ali to be honest, and believe it or not it's Marciano. The only thing that puts me off is the size factor.
     
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    Chinxkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I believe it. But you're sayin ' T, that Rocky's the only heavy you think has a good shot with Ali?
     
  8. teeto

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    Maybe i shouldn't go that far, because he was beaten in reality by Joe Frazier, although there is some debate as to wether he was at his true peak there. But i just think that if you put any (as i'm scanning through a heavyweight list in my head right now), other heavyweight in with Ali in a fantasy match up then i'd likely be picking Ali ultimately.
     
  9. PbP Bacon

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    Even against peak Louis and peak Holmes? :think
     
  10. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tyson had more ability than ali but styles and attributes make fights. i believe ali's height and speed would keep tyson at bay en route to a close decision win
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The guys I give a serious chance aganst Ali are Frazier, Louis, Lewis, and the only one I favour is Frazier and only slightly.
     
  12. teeto

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    In my opinion, yes. Just mine.

    Lennox Lewis is terrily difficult though, Ali would simply need to outspeed him with his feet.
     
  13. Chinxkid

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    Yeah, I wasn't really disagreeing. I don't know, it's interesting. You've got a few guys in the history of the game that we all agree were as good as it gets. Guys like Ali, Robinson, Pep, Burley, and then you have interesting style match ups. Might be a thread... putting guys up against them...
     
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    Oh yeah Chinx i know you wasn't really disagreeing, just wanting an explanation for my post. Yeah they are really the cream of the crop aren't they?
     
  15. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    There's a key difference between Tyson and Frazier, though, in that Tyson could get stopped by punches and Frazier couldn't. Tyson had a good chin, but he didn't seem to like getting hit on the way in - even his early opponents who hit him on the way in could get the better of him in spots. Frazier, on the other hand, would just walk through the storm. I think that difference means Ali would be able to box and move against Tyson where he couldn't against Smokes.