Muhammad Ali " Jack Dempsey Is A Joke " ?

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  1. kraLL

    kraLL Member Full Member

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPiLGbDrGnw&feature=related


    Ali seems to believe he can easily beat Dempsey, he said he has no footwork and no jab. Cant blame him that much because in Willard fight, it did look like Dempsey was nothing more than a brawler but in reality it's different. Mike Tyson said in his movie that people used to see him as a wild brawler who knocks people out with eather hand but in reality it an art that he perfected over the years, every punch he threw was thrown with bad intentions to the vital areas with a speed of a devil. Same goes to Dempsey.
    I dont know how Dempsey would cope with Ali's movement though, because I havent seen much his fights.
    Dempsey vs Ali prime for prime. Who wins and why ?
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Hmmm... I wonder if he thought Frazier was a joke... Not totally analogous fighters but not far off either.
     
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  3. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    I believe Ali would have won by virtue of his superior size and boxing ability.

    I think that Dempsay's win over Willard is curiously overrated.
     
  4. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Ali wins the fight easy I think. I know that video (And the guy who uploaded it). But on the subject, Dempsey is not a joke. But just looking at the Williard fight I can sort of understand why he would have this sort of primitive opinion on him.
     
  5. The Predator

    The Predator Active Member Full Member

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    Dempsey is no joke. But Ali is the greatest and in this matchup I have to say that Ali wins easy.
    The Predator
     
  6. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Prime for prime Ali beats Dempsey easy. Ali would have dominated.
     
  7. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I take it the only Dempsey footage you've seen was the last 60 seconds of the first round of his fight against Willard.
     
  8. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    No no no that post was a mistake I was thinking of another fighter back in those days, not Jack Dempsey. As I have said earlier in a different thread Dempsey was pretty much like a Joe Frazier massive head movement and was able to close the gap quickly. I have seen many clips of Jack Dempsey that post was a mistake.
     
  9. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone who thinks that Dempsey is a soft touch is insane!!!
     
  10. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Frankly, that's the kind of thing I hated about Ali. Talking **** about guys fighting in your own era is one thing, but there's no sense and no class in calling out anybody whose been retired that long and paid their dues to the sport- champion or not. Dick move if I ever saw one. It's a fight Ali should win, but if he took that kind of attitude going into a fight with Dempsey, he'd be in for a brutal revelation.
     
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  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    You cant argue with Ali, I agree with him, Dempsey looked like a wild slugger & he was lighter than Ali, I think Ali stops him within 8 rds.

    Funny **** tho, Ali is always entertainment :good
     
  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    You do know that that actual show was entirely about how Ali viewed all the past great HWT champions right ? :huh

    Would you rather he lied & said he felt Dempsey was a great boxer... he praised Tunney, Charles & Marciano to name a few, he even said Jack was a good fighter for his time.
     
  13. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    How generous of him :lol:

    And to answer your question, absolutely. Imagine if the Klitschkos or Lennox Lewis decided to point out Ali's flaws and use that to call him a joke in an interview 10 years from now- they've got every right to say it, but I've also got every right to call it a dick move to call a past HW great a joke. It's a matter of respect.

    I simply prefer my trash talking fighters to stick to ragging on guys they can actually prove it against. :deal
     
  14. thesham01

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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The Dempsey that beat Willard gives Ali fits. But i've always felt like Dempsey over-extends a bit when he misses. Ali would punish that brutally. TKO.
     
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