Prime for Prime, Who Wins @ 168, James Toney vs Joe Calzaghe?

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  1. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    except calzaghe is much much better version/type of fighter than jirov. MUCH better
     
  2. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    calzaghe of course.
     
  3. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    just to finish on my last point of calzaghe being MUCH better than jirov...i seemt o remember in that fight jirov gave toney so many opportunities to counterpunch him because he didnt exactly use hes brain. There wasnt much method to the all out attack and he was walking on to an awful lot. Calzaghe obviously wouldnt have just one gear going forward and not using hes head---hes also got that ability to adapt, so if toney was countering him well early, hed switch it up a bit and win the rounds for a decision. (imo)
     
  4. jc

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    I like both these guys so glad the poll is close.

    I picked Calzaghe, Toney liked to control the pace and these would be a problem for himas Joe would be in his face all night long, andalthough JC wont be able to hurt Toney in anyway, he is quicker and would rack up points.

    Toneys slick defence and right hand wouldnt make Joe look good, in fact I dont see him looking good in this fight, but I do see him winning a decision.
     
  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    calzaghe would beat toney bec he is the smarter fighter...toney's right hook wont connect to the body bec of calzaghe's shoulder movement.

    JC would just move back and forth as use his handspeed to win rounds.
     
  6. THE BLADE 2

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    The 168 pound version of James Toney is quicker than JC. Just watch Toney-Barkley or Toney-Littles.
     
  7. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney is extremely smart inside the ropes, sets traps,a controls tempo....Why is it so obvious JC being smarter?

    Problem is, some guys only know JT from the higher weights and only marginally or not at all from SM.
     
  8. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney was a mediocre world champion in every class he won a title in.

    Nothing needs to be analysed, you can just state the obvious. Calzaghe beats these guys on off days.
     
  9. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    LOL.

    The mileage Joe has gotten out of struggling with old men, bums, and average fighters .. it is unbelievable. :lol: Of course it is ESB. Fortunately it is the last place anyone would look to find polls mirroring the opinions of athletes.
     
  10. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I'd choose James Toney without any hesitation.
     
  11. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Didnt Toney have several fights he threw over 1000 punches?


    How do you see Calzaghe outworking him? We are talking about Toney at 168 not at heavy.
     
  12. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Ive only seen a little bit of Toney from the old days, so naturally I wouldnt make a pick or comment on the fight.

    But it is pretty obvious from all these statements that a lot of people also never seen him and are just imagining a smaller heavyweight Toney and basing their picks from there.
     
  13. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He temporarilly had some kind of record on compubox, back when it was relatively new. It is an ok stat, but nothing overly impressive. Cannot remember the exact numbers though. Nothing Calzaghe like. The accuracy wasn't bad though.
     
  14. pngo

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    Some people just watch the Jones/Toney fight and think Calzaghe will do the same, no, Calzaghe is not on a prime Jones level.
     
  15. mariancobretti

    mariancobretti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL...

    Jones put his career defining Virtuoso against P4P the best Toney.

    Clazgahe did it against Jeff Lacy...big difference.